Will Vegas Effects and Image ever get another update?

MikeS wrote on 4/12/2023, 10:42 AM

Vegas Effects (and Vegas Image) were last updated in August of last year. Since then, the Hit Film products they are based off (the compositring part of Hit Film Pro and iMerge) have had at least 2 Full Release updates. Has anyone heard if we are ever going to see updates of the Vegas-branded versions in Vegas Post?

I ask becasue the big delay in getting any updates out suggests that the Artlist acquisition of fxHome may have caused a problem. And if so, what does the future hold for Vegas Post?

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RogerS wrote on 4/12/2023, 10:56 AM

We don't usually get updates at the same pace as Hitfilm looking at the release history. That it was updated to coincide with the release of VP 20 under Artlist was a good sign so I'd expect a roll-up patch at some point with the fixes to date.

lan-mLMC wrote on 4/12/2023, 11:10 AM

I asked FXhome this question last September, when they ended their partnership with Filmora and Filmora Pro was discontinued.

I emailed them to ask if VEGAS Effects/Image would continue development. Their answer was Yes.

Hello Lan,

 

Thank you for contacting FXhome.

 

VEGAS Effects and VEGAS Image are still being developed.

 

Please contact us if you have any further questions.

 

Best wishes,

 

Beth W

Customer Support Technician

Seven months later, I don't know if there will be any changes in their plans. So, if you want to know, you'd better send them an email.

fr0sty wrote on 4/12/2023, 11:25 AM

VEGAS Post has had 4 updates so far, each usually comes a year or so after the previous one. As far as any of us knows, those updates are still happening, so yes, more updates are likely to come. Post has never kept up day and date with the Hitfilm updates, so do not let that concern you.

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MikeS wrote on 4/12/2023, 3:08 PM

Both Effects and Image have been incrementally updated between full Post upgrades. Effects was updated 5 times in 2020, for example, with each update being within a month of the corresponding Hit Films Pro upgrade.


Things slowed down slightly in 2021; there were fewer Hit Film Pro updates, so that is understandable, and also Effects seemed to skip any update based on HitFilm Pro 2016, preferring to wait for 2021.1. Nevertheless there were still three updates in total in 2021, each clearly shadowing a corresponding Hit Film pro update albeit with a longer delay from the Hit Film release than previously.


And then they slowed again in 2022, with only 2 updates. And it has now been 8 months without anything, despite Hirt Film Pro having had 2 upgrades in that intervening time (2022.4 and 2023.1)

So there's a pattern - fewer releases, and bigger delays from the corresponding Hit Film release. Hence my vague concern.

Still, everyone seems convinced all is well, which is great news

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lan-mLMC wrote on 4/13/2023, 5:56 AM

Yes, initially, each Hitfilm build was accompanied by a corresponding VEGAS Effects. A few times FXhome even pre-releaseded the corresponding VEGAS Effects before Hitfilm was released. (VEGAS Effects 3.0 & Hitfilm Pro 2021.2)

But as more and more happened inside FXhome, the VE&VI update slowed down.

But don't be too pessimistic, I got a response from FXhome today:

Hello,
 
VEGAS Effects and VEGAS Image are still being developed 🙂
 
Best wishes,
Beth

At the very least, VEGAS Effects and Image are still being developed. So, there's no telling when, but the next build will come abselutely.

fr0sty wrote on 4/13/2023, 8:30 AM

I'm not hearing anything behind the scenes that would indicate that the Post suite is in any kind of danger, and even if it were, I wouldn't see team VEGAS just leaving it to die, as it has become a very valuable part of the VEGAS ecosystem. What it has enabled me to do in VEGAS has ALMOST enabled me to completely cancel my Adobe subscriptions, with me only hanging on to Lightroom to do my timelapse work, and Photoshop simply because I'm more familiar with it than VEGAS Image (though I'm starting to like VI's non-destructive workflow more and more as I learn it!) and can get the job done faster in it as a result... Not to mention it comes with the lightroom subscription that I do still need. Post should be here to stay, and I'm hoping Hitfilm will be as well, as it is excellent software.

Reyfox wrote on 4/13/2023, 1:56 PM

I am following this thread because the concerns on my next Vegas update would possibly be to Post. With the demise of the Hitfilm user forum, Ignite Pro being discontinued (after many promises on it becoming bigger and better in the next release), and the exit of a lot of visible key people who were a part of Hitfilm in doing tutorials, etc., has had me wonder, what the future will be.

I do have HFP 2021.3, but having a streamlined VE and better integration is what I am looking for. So, if there is anything new happening, I look forward to reading about it.

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MikeS wrote on 6/22/2023, 4:44 AM

As of an email from FXHome customer services today, FXHome maintain that Effects and Image are still being developed, but have no idea (or cannot say) when anything might be released to customers, despite it being 10 months since we last saw any update ...

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Reyfox wrote on 6/22/2023, 4:48 AM

It would be wonderful if VEGAS could have bought HFP along with it's programmers. My comments on Artlist I will leave out...

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fr0sty wrote on 6/22/2023, 12:58 PM

I can't comment on the future of Effects/Image, unfortunately... but I do 100% agree with you, Reyfox.

MikeS wrote on 8/14/2023, 10:00 AM

So, hurrah, a roll up of all the incremental feature additions and bug fixes , bringing Image and Effects into parity with current Hitfilm version is now available! But such a shame to see that the only way to get any of that is to upgrade to Vegas Post 21*. I'd suggest that my 'vague unease' was well founded.

*just to be clear here, I think Vegas 21 is looking really good. The Z-depth feature and inclusion of a built-in version of Mocha are both great, for example. It's just that I feel that as a Post owner I've been somewhat shortchanged.

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