WMV encoding & playback /VP11

Simes wrote on 6/23/2014, 8:04 PM

When I encode for wmv, strange to say, the files won't actually play on WMP (on any of my machines) - though they will play on VLC or Media Classic Player.

Anyone know why this might be. I'm using Vegas Pro 11.

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john_dennis wrote on 6/23/2014, 8:34 PM

On my machine, WMP 12.0.7601.18150, I was able to render .wmv from Vegas Pro 11 with the following characteristics and it played fine.

Complete name : C:\Users\John\Desktop\Let's Fly a Kite Vegas 11.wmv
Format : Windows Media
File size : 86.7 MiB
Duration : 1mn 47s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 6 740 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 6 764 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2014-06-24 01:18:16.462
SfOriginalFPS : 239760

Video
ID : 2
Format : VC-1
Format profile : MP@HL
Codec ID : WMV3
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint : WMV3
Description of the codec : Windows Media Video 9 - Professional
Duration : 1mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 6 519 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.131
Stream size : 83.8 MiB (97%)
Language : English (US)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : WMA
Format version : Version 2
Codec ID : 161
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec : Windows Media Audio 9.2 - 192 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR
Duration : 1mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 2.47 MiB (3%)
Language : English (US)

I rarely do such a thing.

Simes wrote on 6/24/2014, 8:40 PM

Thanks John, I will try re-rendering with your settings and see what happens. Will be back to report.

Was just seeing if I could create a listing of similar spec details from the file that won't play in WMV Player (though to note, it does in Media Classic or VLC) but Gspot won't provide a video rendering 'path' either. Only noteworthy thing about this file is that it's 50ffs.

For the web, I never think there's a good alternative to wmv. FLV always seems to be for streaming servers, and mp4 files still seem pretty rare, for downloading -- but maybe I'm stuck in the past somewhere! :) Wondering what format you render to most often (for web purposes).

john_dennis wrote on 6/25/2014, 12:08 AM

I usually use Mainconcept AVC/AAC (*.MP4) Internet render templates in Vegas 11 or 12.

Mediainfo is the application to show the data about the video that I rendered. Uncheck any crap ware that is offered with the installation

Chienworks wrote on 6/25/2014, 6:17 AM

"For the web, I never think there's a good alternative to wmv. ..., and mp4 files still seem pretty rare, for downloading -- but maybe I'm stuck in the past somewhere! :) Wondering what format you render to most often (for web purposes)."

I'd say you are living in the past ;)

WMV seems exceedingly rare for the past 10 years or so. MP4 pretty much rules the download world now. It's much better quality in a smaller file size. The only hitch is that Windows Media Player wasn't able to play it natively until somewhere around Win7 SP1, but there are addons available for earlier versions.

dlion wrote on 6/25/2014, 7:32 AM

+1 main concept mp4. welcome to the present!

nobody uses wmv unless a (not well informed) client specifically asks for it.

musicvid10 wrote on 6/25/2014, 7:52 AM

x264 is better quality at normal internet delivery (2-5 Mbps).

dlion wrote on 6/25/2014, 9:18 AM

to clarify, i work with canon movs mostly.

if i know i need something for the web, i render at 1920x1080 to main concept mp4.

if the particular content needs to look really great, i render to mxf or xdcam mp4 in vegas. then i make an 896x512 mp4 with handbrake, using the tweaks here.

http://ovationplayers.com/yttut/Thumbnails.html