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john_dennis wrote on 10/8/2012, 6:12 PM
Three methods are discribed in this tutorial created by members of this forum.



I recently got surprisingly good results from stills and progressive media with Vegas 4 and Microsoft wmv.





I wouldn't recommend that you digress that far, though.

Since I can be lazy at times, I usually use the Yadif plugin for Vegas Pro 10 or 11 to deinterlace, then the Mainconcept Internet template.

videonob wrote on 10/8/2012, 9:47 PM
Thanks a heap!
PeterWright wrote on 10/8/2012, 9:59 PM
Whilst I appreciate the help that the DNxHD/Handbrake method has brought, and I still use it when size is an issue, I often think that we shouldn't have to do this, and that by now there should be a "perfect" solution within the Vegas Render options.

Maybe there is - perhaps you'd care to share your favourite "in house" solution to rendering to Youtube within Vegas ....
musicvid10 wrote on 10/8/2012, 10:19 PM
In the most widely quoted tests, Mainconcept AVC is a pretty close second to x264 in terms of quality, but is slower.

Unfortunately, deinterlacing and resizing in Vegas use legacy methods, and as such aren't up to the bigger task.

In cases where deinterlace and resizing aren't needed to get optimal playback on Youtube (i.e., 720p source), Mainconcept in Vegas is every bit a contender.
That was and still is my favorite "in-house" solution, and saves a couple of steps.

When Vegas has licensed/developed deinterlace and resizing capabilities on a par with Handbrake's, it will then be a contender on the larger playing field as well.

So one can see, it's not primarily the codecs, but the implementation that begs attention.
PeterWright wrote on 10/8/2012, 10:31 PM
Thanks musicvid for that explanation.

Considering the cost of Handbrake and all the development that's been happening with Vegas, it's surprising that they haven't paid more attention to these aspects.
musicvid10 wrote on 10/8/2012, 10:37 PM
I think it's simple economics.

Handbrake (and AviSynth) based solutions use highly sophisticated open-source libraries (often in combination), a class that Sony tends to avoid like the plague.

The cost of licensing or developing their own commercial libraries that would be able to compete on a level playing field would be astronomical; that's my guess.
Kimberly wrote on 11/29/2012, 11:31 AM
@musicvid:

I finally got around to watching this very excellent tutorial. Gotta love those BBC accents : )

In VP 12, I don't have the "default" *.mov template (ditto for VP 11). Here are the *.mov templates that I see (I do have a bunch of VASST GrafPak templates but those don't help in this instance):




I can pick a *.mov template and build a custom template, but 1440x1080 option does not exist. Of course I can use 1440x1080 as a custom parameter, but the output is terriblely pixelated and the aspect ratio doesn't work with the anamorphic part:



I fussed around with the project properties and *.mov parameters to see if I could get a combination that would produce a nice output. No success.

Is there a way to import the proper template that "knows" about 1440x1080? Another render as choice that I can use instead of *.mov?

Thanks for putting the tutorial together. It is nicely prepared and easy to follow.

Regards,

Kimberly
musicvid10 wrote on 11/29/2012, 11:54 AM
This is for the DNxHD intermediate
It is unfortunate that Sony eliminated the default template
Quicktime from Vegas does not honor anamorphic, so you will use 1920x1080@1.0 PAR from your HDV source, which is the Display Aspect.

High Definition or Custom
1920x1080 (not 1440x1080)
Square Pixels
Frame Rate same as your source
Field Order same as your source
Quality slider is not used
PCM Audio, not QT

Kimberly wrote on 11/29/2012, 12:44 PM
Yes, this helped! Now off to study up on the Nick Hope tutorial.

Thanks again for the tutorial.
musicvid10 wrote on 11/29/2012, 12:46 PM
"Now off to study up on the Nick Hope tutorial. "
Ok, see you next year. J
;?)
GenJerDan wrote on 11/29/2012, 6:28 PM
Are the Squeeze YouTube templates better than just winging it in Vegas? Haven't tried them yet.