VEGAS Pro 19 Update 5 (Build 643)

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Geoffrey-Garratley schrieb am 27.06.2022 um 15:41 Uhr

Since updating to build 643 I cannot load any of the 'media generator - plug-ins'. (titles and text - Solid Colour - Credit Roll etc) Loads onto timeline then then freezes and have to re-start as everything just crashes. Transitions work

j-v schrieb am 27.06.2022 um 15:51 Uhr

......as everything just crashes. ...

Can you show us the crash report?

 

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Geoffrey-Garratley schrieb am 27.06.2022 um 16:00 Uhr

It just freezes ... no crash report as I then have to re-start the pc.

j-v schrieb am 27.06.2022 um 16:15 Uhr

Almost impossible to give help without
- Projectsettings
- Sources (MediaInfo)
- Hardwarespecs
Etc

 

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Vincent-Brice schrieb am 27.06.2022 um 18:28 Uhr

It just freezes ... no crash report as I then have to re-start the pc.

I'm in the process of being helped by support for constant crashing. As I don't always get the report up after a crash they asked me to give them what was in C:\Users\(UserName)\AppData\Local\VEGAS\ErrorReport

Maybe you've already looked there. I tried all the friendly advice on here but nothing has worked in my case. I even splashed out on a new RX 6800 XT because others seemed happy with it, but that hasn't worked either. I did another clean install of Windows 11 with the new GPU, loaded the drivers and then Vegas 19 only, with no plug-ins, it was the only program on my PC and it still crashed! I hope so much that support can help me.

I just wonder if it would be of benefit to have a separate post for ones (who have crashes often enough that it makes Vegas 19 unusable) to report their crashes just to see if it would highlight common denominators. Would that be of benefit to the program writers? Just a thought.

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pawelaski schrieb am 27.06.2022 um 21:53 Uhr

What is wrong with your servers? It took over an hour to download and only half of the update. It should be 10s with my connection. 😫

RogerS schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 01:57 Uhr

It just freezes ... no crash report as I then have to re-start the pc.

I'm in the process of being helped by support for constant crashing. As I don't always get the report up after a crash they asked me to give them what was in C:\Users\(UserName)\AppData\Local\VEGAS\ErrorReport

Maybe you've already looked there. I tried all the friendly advice on here but nothing has worked in my case. I even splashed out on a new RX 6800 XT because others seemed happy with it, but that hasn't worked either. I did another clean install of Windows 11 with the new GPU, loaded the drivers and then Vegas 19 only, with no plug-ins, it was the only program on my PC and it still crashed! I hope so much that support can help me.

I just wonder if it would be of benefit to have a separate post for ones (who have crashes often enough that it makes Vegas 19 unusable) to report their crashes just to see if it would highlight common denominators. Would that be of benefit to the program writers? Just a thought.

Please do start a thread with a clear title. To the extent we can figure out the factors or hardware common to frequent crashes it will be much easier to address. Replicable problems affecting more than one user with some underlying commonality are more solveable. Also include specifics of media in use as it really matters.

Ehemaliger User schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 05:38 Uhr

I use Voukoder for everything, when I"m encoding I"ll very often remember I should have altered something before encoding. When I attempt to cancel the encode Vegas crashes. Although it sounds like waving a red flag at Vegas taunting it to crash I've never seen this before

I attempted to replicate crash, but so far no more crashes

Ehemaliger User schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 06:35 Uhr

Has anyone noticed their timeline disappearing for any reason before build 643? Maximum CPU use was 34%

Putting down a series of splits

Also have a look at this line. the dotted background shows through which it shouldn't be doing

 

 

fr0sty schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 07:20 Uhr

Looks like an issue with thumbnail generation. I have had some thumbs take time to load, leaving a blank event in its place (which makes the track look empty there, it can be confusing), but I have not yet seen that.

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Ehemaliger User schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 09:28 Uhr

I used Howard's file https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a0r86Ux1yFcGY4-ub8NnEr0V7MUI-u1F/view

It's over 2GB so if anyone wanted to test. It is a 620Mb/s file, however it's on a Sata SSD, which should be fast enough. This is a speed test for the drive

But if the drive wasn't fast enough, it still seems strange the timeline is behaving like that.

fr0sty schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 10:16 Uhr

It isn't the drive, as the issues I am experiencing happen even if the media is on an NVME SSD... it's a bug in thumbnail generation, at least in my case.

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Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Yelandkeil schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 10:39 Uhr

I use Voukoder for everything, when I"m encoding I"ll very often remember I should have altered something before encoding. When I attempt to cancel the encode Vegas crashes. Although it sounds like waving a red flag at Vegas taunting it to crash I've never seen this before

I attempted to replicate crash, but so far no more crashes

I don't use Voukoder but my VEGAS (18/19) crashes every time when I cancel the render process.

No exception.

I rarely cancel my rendering so can live with it.

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Howard-Vigorita schrieb am 28.06.2022 um 23:06 Uhr

It isn't the drive, as the issues I am experiencing happen even if the media is on an NVME SSD... it's a bug in thumbnail generation, at least in my case.

Have had thumbnail generating delays in the past myself and generally keep them turned off for timeline clips in video preferences. I don't think these are cached to the file system like Vegas Explorer's thumbs view.

Paul-McIntyre schrieb am 30.06.2022 um 15:26 Uhr

I am back to version 636. I added a slow motion effect to the video, and after a few adjustments, version 643 simply closed itself. So I took it down and am waiting for a newer version.

How do you go about downgrading it after updating? I'm having back to back crashes and getting nothing done now for 3 days.

Any help would be hugely appreciated!

Vincent-Brice schrieb am 30.06.2022 um 19:52 Uhr

I am back to version 636. I added a slow motion effect to the video, and after a few adjustments, version 643 simply closed itself. So I took it down and am waiting for a newer version.

How do you go about downgrading it after updating? I'm having back to back crashes and getting nothing done now for 3 days.

Any help would be hugely appreciated!

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-where-can-i-download-vegas-pro-and-other-vegas-software--104782/

But if a project has been saved in 643 can it be opened in 636? Maybe someone else can answer.

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Vincent-Brice schrieb am 30.06.2022 um 20:04 Uhr

I've been using 643, and it's been very stable as long as I have Legacy AVC Decoder enabled but tonight I decided to load my free Boris Continuum that came with 19 and then I couldn't even open Vegas without it crashing, instant Problem Report every time. I uninstalled Boris and now it's opening and running fine. But means I can't have a couple of FX I liked. SIGH!! 😩

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Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Vegas Pro 22 (Build 248)

Reyfox schrieb am 30.06.2022 um 20:12 Uhr

@Vincent-Brice, I've been quite successful so for with 643 and Boris Continuum Complete 2022.5, Sapphire, NBFX TFX7, Ignite Pro 5, Vitascene and Mercalli Suite 5 and other ancillary addons.

I feel your frustration.... and no... you can't open a 643 project in an earlier build for VP19.

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fr0sty schrieb am 01.07.2022 um 06:37 Uhr

I've been using 643, and it's been very stable as long as I have Legacy AVC Decoder enabled but tonight I decided to load my free Boris Continuum that came with 19 and then I couldn't even open Vegas without it crashing, instant Problem Report every time. I uninstalled Boris and now it's opening and running fine. But means I can't have a couple of FX I liked. SIGH!! 😩

It might be worth reaching out to Boris about that.

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AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

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Erkki schrieb am 02.07.2022 um 07:54 Uhr

When adding music from Vegas Hub to project, video preview becomes 'out of sync' (weird flickering that shows random locations of current timeline when playing preview) and editing is not possible (app stays responsive otherwise). Restarting vegas cures the problem. This problem has been there earlier versions too.

Todd-Fink schrieb am 02.07.2022 um 10:30 Uhr

I am using 10-bit HEVC media and Vegas won't play it right and is really choppy. It also crashes regularly, and editing is a nightmare. Everything about the program is just slow and choppy with the 10-bit media. I have a $6,000 Dollar computer with a $1,000 graphics card, so the problem is not my computer. The only way I can even begin to edit is by reverting back and enabling legacy AVC and HEVC decoding. This apparently disables my graphics card, but this is what seems to work best. In the preview window, I use "Preview-Auto." Even so, the program crashes regularly (and they are big crashes) so I have to shut down all other programs and restart my computer. I manually save my work about every 10 seconds because of the number of crashes. It just seems like the 10-bit media is just too heavy for Vegas so it strains to work with it and, therefore, crashes regularly.

I hope and pray Vegas devotes some serious effort to deal with this issue as 10-bit HEVC is the future.

Ehemaliger User schrieb am 02.07.2022 um 12:31 Uhr

@Todd-Fink from what is known, HEVC using GPU decoding is not advised on Vegas Pro, it delivers a low quality encode, so HEVC LEGACY is the necessary setting, and that probably means you need proxies, either created by Vegas or yourself. A problem with Vegas appears to be slow proxy generation(from what people are saying). A problem you may have however is that the Magix decoder (not legacy HEVC) is forced for some 10bit HEVC codecs, you need to make sure that's not happening. If it is I'd probably re-encode to an intermediate AVC or other format for easier playback

Quality is not an issue with either decoder when using AVC, but if you have enough CPU and you have no compatibility problems, continue to use Legacy AVC, I find it works better in general with smooth playback over edit points. If you get a rare AVC that you can't playback smooth, as it's using too much CPU, consider proxy.

As for builds, I see no benefit to 643, and only negatives, less stable, more crashes, doing weird things. and I would expect that given all the changes you see in release notes. I had reasonable serenity with build 532 that became build 550 with a bug fix. I will most likely return to one of those

Vegas is still using your GPU for processing, it's just not using the GPU decoder when you use the legacy settings

JeanG schrieb am 02.07.2022 um 16:53 Uhr

The version 19 build 643. the version crashes the system.

I tested it on 3 computers and I have the same problem. I had to revert to version 19.0.636 which works fine.

I edit with videos from several different sources (GOPRO, Panasonic S5 and Panasonic G9).

j-v schrieb am 02.07.2022 um 16:58 Uhr

Crash on opening a project or crash on opening only the program without a project?

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566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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