4K SCS Benchmark

OldSmoke wrote on 11/7/2014, 1:47 PM
I thought I give it a try and convert the SCS Benchmark to 4K which is actually fairly simple. I wanted to have a good indication of 4K editing performance on my system and a project I can always refer to when I make changes to my system. I also uploaded it to my OneDrive 4K SCS-Benchmark if someone is interested but it is rather large, 9.75GB. If you don't have a fast Internet connection it might well be easier to convert your own project.

I used XAVC-S 3840x2160@29.97fps for transcoding the video files. I converted the PNG files also to 3840x2160 and resized all generated media to 3840x2160; there is a Vegas script that can do it. I initially tried XAVC Intra but those files where too big to upload.

So far, Best/Full is a not go and even Preview/Full isn't really satisfying. Maybe someone with a 5960X system could give it a try or BruceUSA with his dual 290 setup.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Comments

BruceUSA wrote on 11/7/2014, 4:41 PM
OldSmoke,

I will give it a try over the weekend and I will let you know how it goes.
OldSmoke wrote on 11/7/2014, 5:14 PM
@BruceUSA

Highly appreciated!

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 11/7/2014, 6:03 PM
What files are the media? I could download the .veg and the music, but when I try to download the .mp4's I get prompted to " sign in " to OneDrive..
OldSmoke wrote on 11/7/2014, 7:50 PM
@Stringer

I am not sure what happened there. I checked, the folder and subsequent files are all visible to anyone that has the link. They media files are rather big, 3+ GB each.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 11/7/2014, 8:58 PM
Here is what I see when I take your link:






I can download all but the three red autos - which I assume is the video.

When I right-click and choose ' download ', it takes me to a sign-on screen...

It will probably work for you if you are already logged in..
VidMus wrote on 11/7/2014, 10:07 PM
Maybe you should zip them all up?
ushere wrote on 11/8/2014, 6:13 AM
as an aside - i find onedrive totally useless for sharing, not that gdrive is much better.

i stick to dropbox and mega for client / media transfers.
OldSmoke wrote on 11/8/2014, 6:42 AM
Can you try again? I have updated the link.


Edit: Still not working! Very frustrating. OneDrive is the only place I got that much space left.
Hmm... It seems OneDrive doesn't actually provide such a feature; its only for viewing.

Edit 2: I am putting it up on GoggleDrive now. It will take about an hour to upload the almost 10GB. After that, I will update the link in my initial post.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 11/8/2014, 7:18 AM
While I know you are moving the files, maybe changing the extension will make them downloadable at OneDrive...
wwjd wrote on 11/8/2014, 10:17 AM
I'm deep in filming right now, but if you can leave this up somewhere, I'd love to try it in 4K as well. I'm sure my system could use MUCH tweaking, but no time to with with it this month.
OldSmoke wrote on 11/8/2014, 11:21 AM
ok. It's up on Google Drive and the link has been updated. I hope that works.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 11/8/2014, 1:26 PM
Appreciate the effort... Downloading now, will see how long it takes...
BruceUSA wrote on 11/8/2014, 6:05 PM
OldSmoke,

I downloaded it and test it. Play back is best/full and solid 29.970P 4K most of the time. There is a couple of hard transition, I think it is at 25s of the timeline get 24.xxx and then got back to full 29.97P. If I got the time, I will do a video recording and up load. You can see it for yourself and then you can clearly decide what route you want to go to full fill your quest for 4k editing machine.

The benchmark have a very complex FX and 10 tracks total. I am pleased with the performance out of my 2x 290x overclocked.
NickHope wrote on 11/8/2014, 10:47 PM
Downloading now. Gonna take a while here in Thailand but will test on my 5960X as soon as I can.
Mark_e wrote on 11/9/2014, 7:12 AM
Here you go running on my system with 780ti my summary can you use it real world with proxies etc. yes, is it silky smooth in best without no, is there room for improvement compared to other modern applications yes absolutely! Would I want to do a 4k feature film in it no, 5 min 4k short yes. That's enough playing with system stuff for me now, back to modelling my spaceship ;-)

Mark


OldSmoke wrote on 11/9/2014, 9:15 AM
@Mark

Thanks so much for taking the time and making the video. The projects runs about as "good" on your system as it does on mine. That makes my decision even more difficult as I now have three option: dual 8-core Xeons, 5960X or don't even bother and use proxies for 4K because there is unlike like a system that can do what I am looking for.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

BruceUSA wrote on 11/9/2014, 10:34 AM
OldSmoke,

I watched Mark Video with 2X Xeon and 780ti video card. I can assured you, my test with the 2x r9 290x eat that for breakfast. As you know, Nivida card are not working well in Vegas timeline performance, especially 4k. The way to get good timeline performance is to get the fastest CPU overclock to the max and the fastest AMD video card. You really need this two combo to work together well. For example, if your got the baddest cpu 5960x overclocked and you got nivida card,, you still going no where.
Mark_e wrote on 11/9/2014, 12:04 PM
I'd agree with Bruce if I was building a machine just for Vegas today it sounds like AMD and fast cpu the way to go, for me I want a balance between the applications I use and it's only Vegas that plays up and it's "manageable" for the small stuff I do and everything else loves the 780ti so it's a compromise. Would be nice if Sony could fix it, like I said in another post the new catalyst apps they have just launched seem to play well with Nvidia but there is no point in me buying prepare as, great it can make a 4k mxf file nice and quick, but that doesn't help me when it hit's Vegas so hopefully that learning development stream will cross over into Vegas development timeline in the future. Personally I think it should be a major patch rather than a point release as it's fundamental to the application and everyone else seems to be getting the hang of coding for GPU's now :-)

OldSmoke wrote on 11/9/2014, 12:28 PM
Bruce.

I do have a ASUS R9 290 lying around and I am waiting for a second one at a good price. I am reluctant to try the one cards first as my two 580s are watercooled and ripping them out for a test isn't a small task.

However, if I believe what you are saying it might well be worth even trying one R9 290?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

NickHope wrote on 11/9/2014, 1:50 PM
System specs:

- i7 5960x overclocked to 4498.95 MHz
- NVIDIA GTX 580
- AMD HD 6970
- The world's crappiest microphone found in the back of a drawer

One thing I omit to say in the video is that my 3 monitors are all plugged into the HD 6970. Nothing plugged into the GTX 580.

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BruceUSA wrote on 11/9/2014, 1:52 PM
Oldsmoke,

Yes one 290 is still good. I have 2 because I wanted 2 for other stuffs. As you know, 2 cards are nice but Vegas not using the 2nd card like gaming does. For example, some games will use both card 100%. I wish Vegas can do that.
NickHope wrote on 11/9/2014, 2:24 PM
Since recording that video I went back into the internal preferences and set "OpenCL Memory Size Filter" to the default of 384 and then the first time after that I played back with the HD 6970 acceleration it was pegged on 29.97 just about the whole way through. But now I can't repeat that and it dips to the low 20s again. Weird.

I do suspect that internal preference is primarily intended to filter out graphics cards that have less than that specified amount of memory, so they don't get displayed in the dropdown list of available GPUs.

Would be nice if SCS could help us out a little here.
Tom Pauncz wrote on 11/9/2014, 2:29 PM
I think you are correct there Nick.

Been playing around with the internal settings and when the Memory Filter was set to 3000 as in the previous vid, my nVidia card was not in the drop-down list. When I set that to the card memory - 1GB, the card again appeared.
OldSmoke wrote on 11/9/2014, 2:32 PM
Bruce,

that is strange, both of my GTX580 are active during playback and render. If I render the benchmark project to MC AVC with CUDA I get up to 80% on both cards. It is however important not to setup SLI but rather have them as independent GPUs. Did you enable/setup Crossfire for your cards?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)