Apple Updates iMacs…time to buy a new 4k iMac.

HyperMedia wrote on 10/13/2015, 1:03 PM
The all-new desktop computers feature faster processors and graphics, two Thunderbolt 2 ports and up to 2TB of Fusion Drive storage for stock configurations. The 4K 21.5-inch iMac has a 3.1GHz Core i7 Broadwell processor and integrated Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200, while the 5K 27-inch iMacs have 3.2GHz to 3.3GHz Core i5 and i7 Skylake processors and dedicated AMD Radeon R9 GPUs.

Pricing
27-inch iMac: $1,799, $1,999 and $2,299
21.5-inch iMac: $1,099, $1,299 and $1,499.
Magic Keyboard: $99
Magic Mouse 2: $79
Magic Trackpad: $129




http://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/13/apple-launches-new-imacs-magic-accessories/

Comments

Cliff Etzel wrote on 10/13/2015, 1:09 PM
Meh......
HyperMedia wrote on 10/13/2015, 1:16 PM
If you notice SCS front page. I see there are moving toward a Mac platform. All I have to said” 76 episodes later this machine works. Running Vegas Pro flawless in Bootcamp in four years time. This machine and Sony Vegas Pro changed my career.

I will be updating for 4K conversion.


http://www.twice.com/news/laptops/apple-updates-imacs-adds-new-magic-mouse-keyboard-trackpad/58903
riredale wrote on 10/13/2015, 1:30 PM
Whatever floats your boat. I'm perfectly happy where I am, and Vegas runs with no surprises.

I worked for Apple for four years way back when the Mac first came out. Now, the company just grates on me--for better or worse, I just don't like the image of being an Apple user. Maybe it's the "walled garden" thing. I'm a rebel.
HyperMedia wrote on 10/13/2015, 2:20 PM
No problem …but try telling that to all forum users complaining about the many problems they are having.

Not hating, just stating 4k is now affordable to edit. You can see SCS is going that way!
OldSmoke wrote on 10/13/2015, 2:42 PM
[I]Not hating, just stating 4k is now affordable to edit.[/I]

It always was. I am editing 4K on my machine without any Vegas issues and I spent a lot less on my machine then an equally build Mac would cost. I doubt an iMac is a suitable NLE machine with its limited cooling possibilities.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

wwjd wrote on 10/13/2015, 4:18 PM
huh. already been on 4K for a year, no waiting.

mac does about 10% of my needs (programs, gaming, hardware, 4k etc) so I guess it is not for me.

FINE computer, just too limited for MY uses.
HyperMedia wrote on 10/13/2015, 9:40 PM
What are you talking about? A 4k system including display,camera and computer would cost close to 7 to 10k for a professional system.

Man SONY FDR-AX100 is for consumers. That won’t hold up to broadcast standard?
Of producing a broadcast TV show.
OldSmoke wrote on 10/13/2015, 9:59 PM
HyperMedia

Not sure what your point is. You started the thread saying that 4K is now affordable because you can cut it on a new iMac for as little as 2299 isn't it? If so, you are mistaken, you won't be able to cut higher quality 4K material on that one either and I also doubt it will do 4K from an AX100 well.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

HyperMedia wrote on 10/14/2015, 12:13 AM
Would you like to place a bet? I’d check out the specs. The Mac I have now can cut 4K.
I have 4 year old iMac.
deusx wrote on 10/14/2015, 4:53 AM
I can edit 4K on a 5 year old Clevo laptop, and the latest one has a faster CPU and GPU for not much morethan the new iMac. So I have to ask: "Once you join Apple cult are you not allowed to look at anything else or do they wipe that from your brain every night so even if you see a windows machine you may like it's all gone from your memory the next morning?"

Clevo makes laptops with Dual 980 GPUs and 4 GHZ+ desktop CPUs ( overclocked to 5 Ghz ). You need 3 of these iMacs to match its speed.

>>>
Man SONY FDR-AX100 is for consumers. That won’t hold up to broadcast standard?<<<<

Magic mouse and Magic keyboard do sound very professional. Do they come with Mickey and Minnie stickers too?
JohnnyRoy wrote on 10/14/2015, 7:02 AM
I played around with the 27" iMac with Retina 5K at the local Apple store when it first came out and editing 4K with Final Cut Pro X was buttery smooth. It's a very capable machine for 4K and having a preview window that was full 4K was really nice The display is absolutely gorgeous. You really have to see it in person. I almost bought one instead of my current 12-Core Mac Pro.

I'm guessing the new 21.5" iMac Retina 4K will be just as nice. I hadn't realized that Apple made an announcement. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

~jr
OldSmoke wrote on 10/14/2015, 7:26 AM
I played around with the 27" iMac with Retina 5K at the local Apple store when it first came out

And what was the spec of that machine? My local Apple store displays the top notch model which is by far more expensive then the regular model. The new iMac on display is an i7 with the discrete GPU and 16GB ram, that machine is beyond $3K.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

john_dennis wrote on 10/14/2015, 11:49 PM
@ ~jr

I'm struggling to understand how a 21.5" 4K display would be useful. 24" for 1920x1200 is as small as I'm willing to go. I sit 24" from nose to center of the screen. In my case, 27" would be OK for 4K.

Reference:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?messageid=932948

http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/

I've actually been cruising the Apple section of two major retailers in the last month. So far, I haven't developed any great hardware lust.

My main system:
Motherboard: Asus X99-AII
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX480-8GB
RAM: Corsair Dominator (4 x 4 GB) DDR4 2400
Disk O/S & Programs: Intel SSD 750 (400 GB)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: Corsair Hydro series H115i
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Crystal Sound 3 on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: Asus ProArt PA248q (24" 1920 x 1200)
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 22H2, Build 19045.2130

Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

https://www.youtube.com/user/thedennischannel

JohnnyRoy wrote on 10/15/2015, 7:04 AM
> "I'm struggling to understand how a 21.5" 4K display would be useful. 24" for 1920x1200 is as small as I'm willing to go. I sit 24" from nose to center of the screen. In my case, 27" would be OK for 4K."

I don't know I haven't seen it. The next time I'm at the Danbury mall, I will definitely stop by the Apple Store and check it out. I did see the 27" 5K display and it was very readable. I was afraid that the text would be too small but it wasn't.

Like I said, I'll have to check it out next time I'm there.

~jr
OldSmoke wrote on 10/15/2015, 7:11 AM
I still cant see myself using an iMac as my daily NLE machine. Even the new MacPro is not appealing to me with it's limited upgrade capabilities. The old MacPro is a beauty and in my opinion by far better then the new ones but still too expensive for what you get. I build my own PCs and I doubt I will ever buy an off the shelve unit.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

TheHappyFriar wrote on 10/15/2015, 7:32 AM
No problem …but try telling that to all forum users complaining about the many problems they are having.

I never had problems people post about... but I don't use In-Vidia setup's. Go figure.
OldSmoke wrote on 10/15/2015, 8:37 AM
@HyperMedia
Would you like to place a bet? I’d check out the specs. The Mac I have now can cut 4K.

I still doubt what say is true. I hope you are editing in a 32bit full range/10bit project and have your preview set to Best/Full on a 4K secondary monitor. Because that is what it takes to be broadcast compliant. If its basic 8bit 4K editing, then even my current system does that at an AX100 is sufficient too.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

HyperMedia wrote on 10/23/2015, 10:45 PM
I’d just tested the 4k iMac at the Mac store using 4k video. Man, the 4k footages cut like butter. Now, I tested two different flavor one from the new iPhone and a Sony 4k consumer.

So it wasn’t full range 32 bit or 10 bit 4k. However, I expect Apple wouldn’t make a machine
that wouldn’t handle full 4:2.2 - 4k video.
deusx wrote on 10/24/2015, 9:01 AM
And any PC with those same chips can do exactly the same, so I still don't see your point.

>>>I expect Apple wouldn’t make a machine that wouldn’t handle full 4:2.2 - 4k video. <<<<

They don't make anything. They slap their logo on a box filled with ordinary PC hardware and load OSX instead of windows. And all this is done by some Chinese kid.
wwjd wrote on 10/24/2015, 10:54 AM
I work in IT Support and am getting kinda tired of our MACINTOSH users. They are all nearly the same: call with a problem that wouldn't exist if they'd simply get with the program and use a PC, waste a good protion of MY TIME on the call telling me how great their Macintosh's are, and the ONE THING that works easy for them so well, and how much that pleases them. Meanwhile, I could fix thier issue by saying, "Go back and use the PC we provided for you..." But, I don't because I am a nice guy, and try to get their Macintoshs working because I know they would like it. AT ANY SECOND, I could tell me boss "Macs waste too much time, we will no longer support them", he'd back me, and that would be the end of it. It may come to that very soon.

Even had one mac user tell me Macs are the #1 most used computer in business. I actually laughed out loud at him on the phone - thought we was being funny. Turns out he wasn't, got upset and complanied to my boss. I explained my loss of professionalism and didn't get in any trouble.

Again, macintosh is a FINE computer, it does things, and is attrtactive looking, but dear gosh, PLEASE mac users, lay off the cult worship and "witnessing" to others about its greatness. It really isn't, and that is the truth and the bottom line.

Sorry for the blunt, realistic rant, just tired of working on macintosh issues that shouldn't exist, and will probably change our company policy pretty soon. Such a waste of time.
VMP wrote on 10/24/2015, 11:03 AM
'Microsoft Updates

Yes please, I would like one as a gift (cause I can't afford it), gift wrapped please.

My only laptop is from 2004 and it's barly able to play HD video 10fps or so, and the battery has 20 minutes power lol (nothing wrong with the battery that's the official runtime).
Actually I won it with the lottery. Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V5535, for text processing its fine.

I am looking for a new 2-1 device, something for around 500 $

I have thought about something like the Acer Switch 12 or Acer Switch 11.

If it is able to play HD video smoothly then I am happy with it. I would like SSD OS and above 11 inch.
I like the tablet ability to do some presentation. Maybe write some simple notes with Acid Pro. No heavy editing with Vegas.
I like the Acer more than the Asus transformer book t100, I've compared them side by side, the screen and the smoothness of the swipes and the build quality seem better in the Acer products.
Maybe you guys know a better alternative, lol I probably should start a new thread for this.

VMP
riredale wrote on 10/24/2015, 1:10 PM
Not wishing to get into another Flame War but...

Two days ago I showed a house we were hoping to rent out to a middle-aged mid-level administrator at a local liberal-arts college here in the Portland Oregon area. At one point in the conversation I mentioned that I worked for Apple back in the early days of Macintosh and once had a friendly argument with Steve Jobs in a friend's hotel room while we were both attending an education conference at this college. The argument centered on the idea that Apple was willing to give up market share in exchange for total control of both the software and hardware. Obviously, pros and cons to each point of view. I lost.

Anyway, this college fellow commented that his school was completely Mac, but then mentioned as an aside that "there were some things Apple didn't do well, but we've just learned to do without."

I guess that's one way to look at it.
GeeBax wrote on 10/24/2015, 3:22 PM
I simply dislike the fact that, in all things, Apple think they know better than you do.
Chienworks wrote on 10/24/2015, 10:36 PM
Long commute conversation with one of my Mac-addict friends got around to her explaining one of her main reasons she thinks PCs are useless. She said "but with our Macs and iPhones we call all facetime each other and video chat. It's like being face to face even when we're on opposite sides of the planet." I kinda ummmed, for a while and said that there were many programs for PCs that could do that, and that most of those programs also ran on Macs too if desired. She said "oh wow. That must be really new if i haven't heard about it before. How long have they existed? Facetime's been around for a few years."

I remember skype video chatting with folks 10 years ago, and other systems even far longer than that.

So her final volley was to say "well, yeah, but no Windows computer can run facetime so that's why they're bad." Her argument was that anything that wasn't universal was useless. Funny thing though is that in the case we were discussing, facetime on the Mac was the least universal messaging program. That sort of thinking seems common to pretty much every Mac addict i've ever talked with.