Automatic Remix Audio Length - Vegas or Sound Forge (feature request)

Former user wrote on 10/31/2019, 8:38 PM

In Premiere, you can remix audio so that he has the same length as video using the Audition.

In Power Director too you can remix audio so that he has the same length as video using the the Audio Director.

Vegas users can have this hope in Vegas or Sound Forge?

This feature is an extremely useful feature for those working with video editing. 

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zdogg wrote on 11/1/2019, 3:05 AM

You just adjust the time in Vegas with Control/drag the end of the audio event, in/out. In addition, you can, by right clicking and selecting properties, have access to different types of stretch algorithms, especially if you'd select "classic" instead of elastique.

No audio is going to sound great stretched past a certain percentage, I don't care what you use to do that job, so any stretch, then, obviously, should amount to no more than a minor percentage adjust, time wise.

If you don't like that "convenient" solution, you can always just time the thing down to the micro second and export that file and have at it with any third party audio editor, and there are some good free ones. Magix makes my favorite, Samplitude/Sequoia, (though not free they have 30 day trials you could absolutely use). Soundforge? If it can't time stretch it's not an audio editor, and you CAN name your third party editor from within Vegas (Options/Preferences"Audio) and that will export and then import automatically once you save in the third party software.

 

altarvic wrote on 11/1/2019, 3:11 AM

Adobe's audio remix is not time stretching. It analyzes audio, identifies important segments, loops, transitions, and finally remixes to any duration (w/o changing the speed).

Former user wrote on 11/1/2019, 4:31 AM

You just adjust the time in Vegas with Control/drag the end of the audio event, in/out. In addition, you can, by right clicking and selecting properties, have access to different types of stretch algorithms, especially if you'd select "classic" instead of elastique.

This feature does not work as a Time stretch or Compress Tool. It is completely different. See the videos I posted. They explain how this feature works.

zdogg wrote on 11/1/2019, 4:54 AM

Ok, I see, it is adding or deleting segments to stretch or compress. That will work with certain types of music better than others, i.e., looped based, constant beat, well defined sections. Almost AI - like....but it's not going to always work, or work well. It's a cool feature, but one can certainly do the same on one's own with any sort of musical background or feel, won't be as "quick" perhaps, the final results might be better though. Thanks for that, that's a new feature I've not seen up till now. (I say that as a musician and audio editor, I should admit that it's not so easy if one has no experience as such, but it certainly isn't unattainable)

I can't see that appearing in Vegas anytime soon, though Vegas is quite good with audio, as you might well know.

Get Audition, you can probably get that for a quick seven day free "trial" or monthly of what?? $20/mo.?

Turd wrote on 11/1/2019, 8:50 AM

There was a time, long ago, before I knew Sonic Foundry's Vegas Video 3 existed, that I played around with the Pinnacle Studio product. Please don't hate me. Anywayz, one of the features I thought is cool with that program is that it came with a decent number of built-in audio tracks that were actually not the worst tracks I'd ever heard over several genres. But one thing that could be accomplished quite easily with those tracks, which blew my mind, was how the length of ANY of those music tracks could automatically and seamlessly be re-adjusted to any time. It actually sounded great! And that was almost 20 years ago! When I found -- and stayed with Vegas (because overall it was a MUCH better video editor than Pinnacle) -- I looked for a similar audio feature. When I didn't find it I assumed it was because a professional editor wouldn't be caught dead doing something "gimmicky" like that. I hadn't given automatic music length another thought about it since then, but now I'm thinking perhaps it wasn't so gimmicky after all.

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wwaag wrote on 11/1/2019, 10:52 AM

That really is a useful feature. In doing demos for HappyOtterScripts, one of the most tedious tasks I've found is re-mixing the background audio to match the video length. It's a real PITA. I'm surprised that there aren't any stand-alone apps that support this feature. If PowerDirector works OK and the audio can be exported, that would seem the way to go for a lifetime license. On Ebay, I noticed that licenses sell for around $13 although I suspect they are hacks. Or perhaps an older version would work OK.

Edit: It's not PowerDirector but rather AudioDirector which is a standalone audio editor wherein the audio remix function can be used. It seems to work reasonably well. Cyberlink offers a 30 day trial.

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NickHope wrote on 11/2/2019, 1:01 AM

Vegas used to have this feature with an additional SCS product called Cinescore. I bought it but, despite several attempts, I never managed to create a single soundtrack that I was remotely happy with, and always just ended up using stock music instead, fading it out if the length wasn't right.

I think SmartSound Sonicfire Pro was better, and still seems to be going.