best flickering reduction/removal plugin for Vegas

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RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 8/18/2022, 8:59 PM

I downloaded and tried Revision FX Deflicker today for my stage footage where the LEDs were horribly flickering particularly when not at full intensity and when the UV light was used. (often)

NeatVideo still does the best job in my assessment (highest quality and decent performance).

In a few clips NeatVideo didn't get rid of the flicker. Neither did Revision FX Deflicker. (although I admit, there were lots of options I could play with in Revision's tool, and I didn't have time to experiment more with it)

I ended up layering two tools together -- NeatVideo cleaned some noise and took care of some of it, then I added BorisFX's DeFlicker" using temporal RGB, and brought down color that I knew wasn't relevant (e.g. green). The result was pretty incredible!

Just sharing my experience -- I was prepared to buy Deflicker if needed but it didn't work out for me and the others worked very very well. Glad to see we have a robust arsenal of tools to choose from!!

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

marcinzm wrote on 8/19/2022, 1:01 AM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns Can you paste a screenshot of settings you used in NeatVideo. I also have NeatVideo, but I didn`t test it out with flickering issue. Maybe I should do another test.

If you are bored, drink water, you will want to pee. -> Albert Einstein - my idol!

I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

Camera/video camera: Sony FX3, Sony A7 III, Sony FDR AX 100, Canon 5D Mark III, GoPro Hero Black 7,8,9,10

Lenses for Sony: Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Di III , Sony 24mm gm 1.4 FE, Sony 20 mm G FE 1.8

Lenses for Canon: Canon EF 24-70 mm F/2.8 L USM, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L

Drone: DJI Mavic 3 & DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2.0

 

Editing: Vegas Pro 20 (365) with a lot of third party plugins, also my own plugins written in C#

 

PC:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.31 GHz

RAM: 128 GB

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI

storage: 4 SSD drives (including two M.2 flash drives) and two HDD drives

Windows system: 10 Home edition

marcinzm wrote on 8/19/2022, 1:23 AM

@Former user I will comment later, because now I do tests with NeatNoise plugin.

If you are bored, drink water, you will want to pee. -> Albert Einstein - my idol!

I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

Camera/video camera: Sony FX3, Sony A7 III, Sony FDR AX 100, Canon 5D Mark III, GoPro Hero Black 7,8,9,10

Lenses for Sony: Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Di III , Sony 24mm gm 1.4 FE, Sony 20 mm G FE 1.8

Lenses for Canon: Canon EF 24-70 mm F/2.8 L USM, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L

Drone: DJI Mavic 3 & DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2.0

 

Editing: Vegas Pro 20 (365) with a lot of third party plugins, also my own plugins written in C#

 

PC:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.31 GHz

RAM: 128 GB

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI

storage: 4 SSD drives (including two M.2 flash drives) and two HDD drives

Windows system: 10 Home edition

marcinzm wrote on 8/19/2022, 1:26 AM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns I was watching a video , but I have later version of Neat Video which the options of flickering fix are much simplified. I only tick the flickering checkbox option, like this:

 

and I start rendering. Previously, of course, I built noise profile.

Last changed by marcinzm on 8/19/2022, 1:27 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

If you are bored, drink water, you will want to pee. -> Albert Einstein - my idol!

I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

Camera/video camera: Sony FX3, Sony A7 III, Sony FDR AX 100, Canon 5D Mark III, GoPro Hero Black 7,8,9,10

Lenses for Sony: Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Di III , Sony 24mm gm 1.4 FE, Sony 20 mm G FE 1.8

Lenses for Canon: Canon EF 24-70 mm F/2.8 L USM, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L

Drone: DJI Mavic 3 & DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2.0

 

Editing: Vegas Pro 20 (365) with a lot of third party plugins, also my own plugins written in C#

 

PC:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.31 GHz

RAM: 128 GB

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI

storage: 4 SSD drives (including two M.2 flash drives) and two HDD drives

Windows system: 10 Home edition

marcinzm wrote on 8/19/2022, 2:12 AM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns I think I will break the rendering process of NeatVideo flickering apply, because rendering of 18 minutes video file is going to finish after 18 hours. The video I want to render the most (which has bigger flickering issues) is 44 minutes, so the rendering of this file should take more than 40 hours, which is not acceptable for me.

If you are bored, drink water, you will want to pee. -> Albert Einstein - my idol!

I am 42. I have been creating videos since 2009 (the date when my first daughter was born in). My first video software was Pinnacle, next one was Sony Vegas 8 (I am not sure if remember it correctly). I am also a developer and wedding movie operator and editor. For example: I have created an Android app which let me control Vegas Pro rendering progress level on Android smartphone. I created it for fun, because I also love programming. I also created my own plugin for Audio To Text feature specified usage from Vegas Pro 19. I created proxy creation plugin which uses multiple GPU threads (maximum 3) to create proxy files for Vegas Pro. I also written many others plugin/softwares which enhance my video editing, also wedding editing.

Camera/video camera: Sony FX3, Sony A7 III, Sony FDR AX 100, Canon 5D Mark III, GoPro Hero Black 7,8,9,10

Lenses for Sony: Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Di III , Sony 24mm gm 1.4 FE, Sony 20 mm G FE 1.8

Lenses for Canon: Canon EF 24-70 mm F/2.8 L USM, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L

Drone: DJI Mavic 3 & DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2.0

 

Editing: Vegas Pro 20 (365) with a lot of third party plugins, also my own plugins written in C#

 

PC:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7900X CPU @ 3.30GHz   3.31 GHz

RAM: 128 GB

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI

storage: 4 SSD drives (including two M.2 flash drives) and two HDD drives

Windows system: 10 Home edition

Reyfox wrote on 8/19/2022, 2:48 AM

@Former user, I tried flicker free and it crashed every time in VP19. So I tried it in VP18 with the same result. It did work in Resolve Studio, and while slow (not close to an hour), the results weren't as good as what @marcinzm used and presented in the final render.

Former user wrote on 8/19/2022, 7:33 AM

@Former user Today I do some other tests.

1) Firsty, I rendered raw video with the these plugins I mentioned one of the previous posts, but without Revision FX Deflicker. The result video was 18 minutes

2) Then I import the result 18 minutes video file from 1) and apply only Reivison FX Deflicker and the rendering took more 3 hours

I can add that I rendered 1) to HEVC 4K but most of the the raw partial videos file was 4:4:2 10bits LOG 200 Mbps bitrate, so the result video file from 1) has much lower bitrate than 200 Mbps.


@marcinzm Thanks for sharing, I've been reading but sorry i've been busy ..👍

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 8/19/2022, 10:57 AM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns I think I will break the rendering process of NeatVideo flickering apply, because rendering of 18 minutes video file is going to finish after 18 hours. The video I want to render the most (which has bigger flickering issues) is 44 minutes, so the rendering of this file should take more than 40 hours, which is not acceptable for me.

WOW that's long!

I applied NeatVideo and DeFlicker'd 100% of the clips in a 1.5 hour show I just rendered overnight. Render was done in about 9 hours.

I rendered using Magix AVC, 1080p 16Mbps, on a machine that's a few years old -- Core i7-7700K @ 4.2GHz, 32 GB RAM, Vegas 20, Radeon RX0470 and Intel HD Graphics 630 on-board.

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 8/19/2022, 10:58 AM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns I was watching a video , but I have later version of Neat Video which the options of flickering fix are much simplified. I only tick the flickering checkbox option, like this:

 

and I start rendering. Previously, of course, I built noise profile.

Rendering right now.. will grab a screen-shot in a bit.. using the latest version of Neat Video .. I wonder if you need to click to enable the "advanced options".. I definitely have more options and tools than you're seeing.

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio