Black preview when an effect is applied by clicking on

DavitArt wrote on 11/21/2022, 4:05 PM

Hello! I'm a Vegas newbie with a problem: black preview when an effect is applied by clicking on Tools > Video > Media FX but no problem when effects are applied by clicking on the thumbnail fx icon. Any idea?

Video here: https://wetransfer.com/downloads/33e5dcf41c5b2a73a7353eb0542a747a20221120114531/c485a523414f7d74421d4cc40375244720221120114549/cdc86c?trk=TRN_TDL_01&utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_01&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid

Thank you so much

DavitArt
Win 10 Home, Vegas Pro 20.0.214, i7 4790k, 32GB, GeForce GTX 970

Comments

RogerS wrote on 11/21/2022, 6:56 PM

What Fx specifically did you apply?

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 11/21/2022, 11:21 PM

I'm having a VERY similar issue right now, having problems adding MEDIA FX to any media, whether 4K or 1080p.

The problem occurs with "Brightness and Contrast" for me -- tested also with "Border".

When my video processing is disabled (Video tab of preferences), it literally crashes when the effect is added to the media. When it is enabled, the output is black. There are a few other odd behaviors too...

Here's my post on the forum from about an hour ago:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/crash-on-vfx1-ofx-when-just-adding-brightness-and-contrast-to-media--138076/

 

Vegas 20.214

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 32GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

RogerS wrote on 11/21/2022, 11:51 PM

I have a GTX 1050 and am seeing no issue with border or brightness and contrast with the current Studio driver.

I downloaded the OP's video (note you can hit the button next to the smiley face and upload it here in the future). It was the stabilization effect applied at the media level with translation + rotation on. I added a UHD XAVCS file to my timeline and did the stabilization effect at the media level. No blackout here when the Fx window is open or closed.

@DavitArt Could you also make the original bird video available via wetransfer to see if that's the issue?

Can others replicate this problem with media level Fx?

andyrpsmith wrote on 11/22/2022, 8:23 AM

Cannot replicate with 1080Ti and current studio video driver.

Reyfox wrote on 11/24/2022, 6:23 AM

Also, I too can not replicate the problem with my all AMD computer using graphics driver 22.5.2 for the RX 6700XT.

DavitArt wrote on 11/27/2022, 3:32 AM

Sorry guys but I had a very busy work week which kept me away from the important things in life (Vegas Pro 😂). I think there is no solution, at least for now. The problem occurs with almost all filters (when applied to the entire clip via Media FX). I formatted the hdd and reinstalled win 10 home and vegas pro 20.0.214. I haven't installed the chipset drivers because Windows recognizes the motherboard perfectly and I haven't installed the nvidia drivers either because they are downloaded and installed automatically. Unfortunately the problem also occurs with the very clean system, both with (PAL) 2160p/25fps clips and with clips shot at , 1080/100 and 1080/50. Thank you all!

WeTransfer Links:
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/9d67f68b4ec46cd0484b7d6b9b491aa320221127092544/6aad4d44597c27d225ae3e440c22c23b20221127092604/853b9d?trk=TRN_TDL_01&utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_01&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid

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DavitArt wrote on 11/27/2022, 9:48 AM

Sorry guys but I had a very busy work week which kept me away from the important things in life (Vegas Pro 😂). I think there is no solution, at least for now. The problem occurs with almost all filters (when applied to the entire clip via Media FX). I formatted the hdd and reinstalled win 10 home and vegas pro 20.0.214. I haven't installed the chipset drivers because Windows recognizes the motherboard perfectly and I haven't installed the nvidia drivers either because they are downloaded and installed automatically. Unfortunately the problem also occurs with the very clean system, both with (PAL) 2160p/25fps clips and with clips shot at , 1080/100 and 1080/50. Thank you all!

WeTransfer Links:
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/9d67f68b4ec46cd0484b7d6b9b491aa320221127092544/6aad4d44597c27d225ae3e440c22c23b20221127092604/853b9d?trk=TRN_TDL_01&utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_01&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid

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NEWS
1) The problem, as already mentioned, occurs with the nvidia gtx 970 video card and updated driver.
2) The problem also occurs when using the integrated gpu in the i7 4790k processor.
3) The problem does NOT occur by disabling both gpu from Preferences > Video > GPU acceleration
4) Without gpu acceleration the preview during video stabilization works fine but vegas crashes at the end of the analysis

Reyfox wrote on 11/27/2022, 1:32 PM

@DavitArt I downloaded your files, placed them on the timeline so that it is a 1920x1080.

I had to look at your supplied video to make sure I was doing exactly what you were doing. And yes, it is black when you are viewing the timeline playback of the stabilized footage in Preview Quality dropdown menu, Preview>Auto. But change it to Good>Auto and on my computer, the video plays back fine.

andyrpsmith wrote on 11/27/2022, 1:56 PM

All working perfect for me, no loss of video in preview window at any time before, during and after video stabilization. using 1080Ti GPU and latest driver. Also no issue at any setting in the preview window.

todd-b wrote on 11/27/2022, 5:42 PM

I confirm this problem with timeline preview set to draft and Preview , works with good or best settings. I thought on draft and preview it could be trying to read a proxy file, so created one, made no difference

rtx3080, latest studio drivers

DavitArt wrote on 11/28/2022, 2:45 AM

🥳🥳🥳 Yeah! Now it works fine! Thank you guys! 🥳🥳🥳

walter-i. wrote on 11/28/2022, 3:00 AM

🥳🥳🥳 Yeah! Now it works fine! Thank you guys! 🥳🥳🥳

@DavitArt
And what was the solution exactly? Other users could possibly benefit from it.
You could also mark the post that helped you the most as the solution.

RogerS wrote on 11/28/2022, 5:34 AM

This is odd. I downloaded the footage, overlapped it and added video stabilize as a media Fx but don't get the blackout in preview or draft mode. I'm using my 2080 Super for this test, current studio driver.

Reyfox wrote on 11/28/2022, 6:46 AM

Update. I just tried doing it again, but this time in VP19 b643, and it works in any preview setting I choose.

Opened VP20 b214, and going to Preview>Auto, the preview is black. Bug? Why would it be fine in VP19, but not in VP20?

DavitArt wrote on 11/29/2022, 5:58 AM

@DavitArt I downloaded your files, placed them on the timeline so that it is a 1920x1080.

I had to look at your supplied video to make sure I was doing exactly what you were doing. And yes, it is black when you are viewing the timeline playback of the stabilized footage in Preview Quality dropdown menu, Preview>Auto. But change it to Good>Auto and on my computer, the video plays back fine.

Solution: change the preview quality from preview>auto to good or best