[bug or defect?] Applying FX Filter Package to event will remove

lan-mLMC wrote on 3/28/2019, 11:39 AM

Applying FX Filter Package to event will remove the event's orignal FX.

Why not "adding mode"? Why "replacing mode"? It is not logical and practical!

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Grazie wrote on 3/28/2019, 11:49 AM

Applying FX Filter Package to event will remove the event's orignal FX.

@lan-mLMC - Yup, that’s what happens.

xberk wrote on 3/28/2019, 12:07 PM

Not a bug. Not a defect. This is how Filter Packages work. I vote to keep it this way. "Replacement mode" works for me.

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lan-mLMC wrote on 3/28/2019, 12:29 PM

Not a bug. Not a defect. This is how Filter Packages work. I vote to keep it this way. "Replacement mode" works for me.

If the event's orignal FX has been animated and I want to add a extra FX Filter Packages to the event, It will be a big problem.

If I add a extra FX Filter Packages to the event, orignal FX will be removed;

If I save orignal FX as a new FX Filter Packages, I can't do anything to mix the two FX Filter Packages.

Former user wrote on 3/28/2019, 12:38 PM

Apply your filter package as MEDIA FX that will work.

Former user wrote on 3/28/2019, 12:50 PM

Apply your filter package as MEDIA FX that will work.

It will disrupt other events.

You only need to create subclips of the events in which you want to apply the filters. Thus, the filters will only be applied to the subclips at the media level and the effects that were already in them will be keeping and this will not affect the other events

xberk wrote on 3/28/2019, 1:03 PM

I see your problem. One possible is to insert a video track above, copy the event with the animated FX to the track above, apply the Filter package to the same event on the track below. With both tracks at 100% opacity, should work. I see this as a work around for the way you'd like things to work in Vegas.

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lan-mLMC wrote on 3/28/2019, 2:09 PM

Apply your filter package as MEDIA FX that will work.

It will disrupt other events.

you just have to create subclips of the events in which you want to apply the filters. So the filters will be applied only in the subclips at the media level only.

It is too tedious to deal with much similar situation during work flow.

Actually, in contrast to your solution, I can use nested project of the event with its original FX by using vegasaur.

However, during workflow there may be much similar situotion. such as I want to mix three or four FX Filter package to a event. Or there are dozens of FX events which need to be added extra FX filter package.

I hope developer can change "replacing mode" to "adding mode" in video and audio filter package. Including "selectively paste event attributes".

Former user wrote on 3/28/2019, 3:08 PM

Nesting events with Vegasaur will also work, but will require more memory and processing due to nesting. If that's no problem for you, do it that way then.

It is also possible to separate the desired events on a track and apply the filter packages as Track FX.

With Vegasaur, you can also use Apply / Remove FX and copy the video effects from a certain event and apply as FX media to several other events at once. This will avoid tedious and repetitive work.

Choose the shape that best fits your need.

I hope developer can change "replacing mode" to "adding mode" in video and audio filter package. Including "selectively paste event attributes".

I have long wanted this too.

 

lan-mLMC wrote on 3/28/2019, 7:32 PM

Nesting events with Vegasaur will also work, but will require more memory and processing due to nesting. If that's no problem for you, do it that way then.

It is also possible to separate the desired events on a track and apply the filter packages as Track FX.

With Vegasaur, you can also use Apply / Remove FX and copy the video effects from a certain event and apply as FX media to several other events at once. This will avoid tedious and repetitive work.

Choose the shape that best fits your need.

I hope developer can change "replacing mode" to "adding mode" in video and audio filter package. Including "selectively paste event attributes".

I have long wanted this too.

 

Expecting a positive official response.

NickHope wrote on 3/28/2019, 11:09 PM

+1 for "replace" and "add" options. These could be radio buttons on the "Select Paste Event Attributes" dialog.

Grazie wrote on 3/28/2019, 11:32 PM

+1 for "replace" and "add" options. These could be radio buttons on the "Select Paste Event Attributes" dialog.

@NickHope - Well, sure.... How about a “Tree View” of added FXs, something similar to a Folder View or Block-Chain of FXs added and to be added. Although straightforward, the CHAIN View is or has gotten well, a tad ancient. I’ve been messing with Sound Forge and that has a set of Block-Chains for their own SFXs. Can’t be a major leap for MAGIX to consider this? So yes, a better Add and Copy Radio Buttons, but I’m thinking further still 😉.

NickHope wrote on 3/29/2019, 12:10 AM

Personally I'm pretty happy with the current chain view of FX.

With regard to Paste Event Attributes, what I'd really like to see would be these 4 direct, keyboard-shortcuttable menu picks, perhaps from a fly-out menu:

  • Replace Event Attributes
  • Add Event Attributes
  • Replace Event FX
  • Add Event FX

You could still keep the "Select Paste Event Attributes" command and dialog (with new "Replace" & "Add" radio buttons) for selectively pasting other attributes, but I bet those 4 commands would cover the majority of what users want to use Paste Event Attributes for.