Bug Resulting in Audio being in the wrong place

Alonzorion wrote on 3/1/2023, 2:42 PM

I recently upgraded to Pro 18 (Build 527, Windows 10) and not long into editing, was hit with this rather problematic bug where audio will part and start playing in the incorrect place? Demonstrated in the video below is a place where it's playing in a place there's no visible audio in the timeline, it also renders this way too! D:
 



Any help's massively appreciated.

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Alonzorion wrote on 3/13/2023, 6:54 AM

Unfortunately still an issue and where as at first, it seemed to only occur at the end of projects being somewhat possible to work around by shifting everything around, it now seems to just pop up anywhere. I may have to switch back to Vegas 15 as it's impossible to work with.

noisywan wrote on 3/13/2023, 8:32 AM

Could be a damaged or non-standard source video. Have you tried creating a proxy?

What happens if you export the audio track as PCM / WAV using Avidemux? Does the audio track come out healthy?

john_dennis wrote on 3/13/2023, 11:29 AM

@Alonzorion

Give us data about your source files, system etc. following this post:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Some of us are empathic. Some of us, like myself, tend to work with data.

My main system:
Motherboard: ASUS ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI
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Alonzorion wrote on 3/17/2023, 4:08 PM

Could be a damaged or non-standard source video. Have you tried creating a proxy?

What happens if you export the audio track as PCM / WAV using Avidemux? Does the audio track come out healthy?

Unfortunately, I think it's just Vegas-side. The video I've been editing in recent is about 20 hours worth from three separate sources, however I have tried making a proxy and the same problem arose. The same issue doesn't seem to arise anywhere else? I tried opening it in the likes of audacity, sending it through handbrake, various media players, but everything's still in the correct place after.

 

@Alonzorion

Give us data about your source files, system etc. following this post:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Some of us are empathic. Some of us, like myself, tend to work with data.

Certainly!

VEGAS Version & Build
Vegas Pro 18 (Build 527)

Windows Edition & Version
Windows 10 (Version 21H2)

Camera/App that created your footage
Mirillis Action! 4.31.0, Elgato Game Capture HD 3.70.55 (3055) 64-bit & Audacity 2.3.2, all of which are exhibiting the same issue

Your Delivery Destination
YouTube

Exact symptoms of your problem
Audio entirely moving locations on the timeline, even to places where there’s no visible audio as shown

MediaInfo Report for your source footage
General
Complete name                            : D:\Video Area\Secondary Channel Uploads and Twitter\Mercenaries 2\My Great Game - My Great Capture - 2022-10-31 14-13-59.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Codec ID                                 : M4V  (M4V /M4A /mp42/isom)
File size                                : 19.6 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 18 min
Overall bit rate                         : 20.3 Mb/s
Movie name                               : My Great Capture
Description                              : Description here.
Recorded date                            : 2022-10-31
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-31 16:31:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-31 16:31:30

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=14
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 2 h 18 min
Source duration                          : 2 h 18 min
Bit rate                                 : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS
Original frame rate                      : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.362
Stream size                              : 19.4 GiB (99%)
Source stream size                       : 19.4 GiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-31 16:31:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-31 16:31:30
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
mdhd_Duration                            : 8318878
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 2 h 18 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 224 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 220 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-31 16:31:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-31 16:31:30

VEGAS Pro File Properties for your source footage
Name: My Great Game - My Great Capture - 2022-10-31 14-13-59.mp4
  Folder: D:\Video Area\Secondary Channel Uploads and Twitter\Mercenaries 2
  Type: AVC
  Size: 20.56 GB (21,057,349,960 bytes)
  Created: 31 October 2022, 16:31:30
  Modified: 31 October 2022, 16:39:54
  Accessed: 17 March 2023, 20:01:55
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 02:18:38.886, 59.940 fps progressive, 1280x720x32, AVC
  Audio: 02:18:38.804, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 6

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

(This is one of many given I've had persistent issues with about 20 hours of footage)

Graphics Card Model
Nvidia MSI RTX 980Ti

Graphics Card Driver Version
531.29

Status of GPU acceleration of video processing
On (Optimal)

Status of Enable Hardware Decoding for supported formats
AVC decoding off, HEVC decoding on

Project Properties

Any help massively appreciated! If you need any more information, please let me know.

Reyfox wrote on 3/18/2023, 9:21 AM

Out of curiosity looking at your Project settings considering the source material. Why don't they match? Why are you using 32bit with the video 8bit?

Do you have a shorter sample of original video where this happens that can be uploaded to the cloud?