Camera LUT in Video output Fx (color grading) question

Wiew wrote on 11/22/2020, 6:03 AM

Hello ,

I'm a newbie in Vegas pro (using version 18)

so probably this is a simple question but I can't find it.

All parts I want to edit are shot by my Panasonic HC-X1 in cine-D

I can import the Cine D lut in the colorgrading , but than I have to do this for every clip

I found the video FX output , and I added with the FX+ tool the color grading effect ,

I wanted to add the LUT over there so it is on all tracks

but how can I open the color grading on the FX output.

Or am I doing this the wrong way and is there a better way to add this camera LUT on the input

 

Thanks in advance

Johnny

 

 

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j-v wrote on 11/22/2020, 6:13 AM

All FX's can be added at event-, track-, media- and projectlevel.

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RogerS wrote on 11/22/2020, 6:16 AM

You could apply the Fx to the media (the files before they are added to the timeline). Right click on it in the media pool, select Media Fx. Choose the Fx "LUT filter". Then when you add it to the timeline the LUT will already be applied.

This is probably better than putting the LUT filter on the output Fx as that would affect titles, pictures and anything else in your project. It's also possible to do it at the track level if all the HC-X1 clips are on the same track.

Note you can't use the color grading filter directly on anything except events (clips on the timeline).

Wiew wrote on 11/22/2020, 6:23 AM

Thank you,

every day I learn a bit more

so many possibilities in this program

diverG wrote on 11/22/2020, 11:28 AM

Might be worth adding LUT in colour grading to establish the strength needed. Once sorted you can export a new lut. In my case the new lut was then applied at track level. Had forgotten it could be added to media within folder. Thanks.

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Wiew wrote on 11/22/2020, 2:43 PM

I don't think it is possible to select all files (control A in the media pool) and drop a LUT on all of them.

I tried and it doesn't work

RogerS wrote on 11/22/2020, 9:03 PM

I don't think it is possible to select all files (control A in the media pool) and drop a LUT on all of them.

I tried and it doesn't work

You can do that to events on the timeline (selective paste) but media pool is one by one.

@Diver You can set strength in the Fx LUT filter, too, though I don't think you can see what it's doing until you doubleclick and temporarily add the media to the timeline.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 11/22/2020, 10:24 PM

Another way to ease things is to glue all the clips together with a utility like ffmpeg and add just 1 big clip to the timeline. I'm also experimenting with applying the camera lut to the joined clip ahead of time. It takes a while to apply a lut with ffmpeg but it should speed up Vegas editing and rendering without a lut. Here's my little test script that seems to work fine on a 4k 10bit hevc test clip from my zcam and their zlog2-to-rec709 lut which I was able to run on my laptop which has an Nvidia 1050ti gpu:

ffmpeg -hwaccel auto -i A001C0003_20200515105529_0001.mp4 -vf lut3d="zLog2_Rec709_64_noGain_normal.cube" -pix_fmt p010le -b:v 131M -c:a copy -c:v hevc_nvenc output.mp4

I just matched the bitrate and pixel format (420) to my test clip and the outfile ended up matching the input file size and mediainfo fairly closely. Fwiw, my Dell xps15 laptop runs this kind of slowly even with the gpu acceleration I slipped in there. Should easily adapt to h264 and amf (amd) codecs and run quicker on a bigger machine.

Wiew wrote on 11/23/2020, 1:28 AM

This is a project(safety movie) that has about 250 4K shots 
All the shots are numbered matching the script
So bringing them back together to one movie 
would be a huge job to re-cut and rename all the files again

I worked with Pinnacle for many years and just made the switch to Vegas a few weeks ago.

I started this project in Pinnacle a few years back, but every year I have to make adjustments on the movie. This is a great way to learn a lot using Vegas and do a re-edit so I can work on it in Vegas the next ... years

Putting the LUT on one or more tracks is I think the best way to work this project

My laptop is also a few years old

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RogerS wrote on 11/23/2020, 1:58 AM

Personally, I just do it at the track level for shots from the same camera, or cut and paste the Fx to events on the timeline.

Media is mainly helpful when you have one long file that you cut up in different places on the timeline (like an interview).