Create a "comics page"" presentation

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 8:41 AM

Hi everyone, 

I use Vegas Pro 16 and I can't do something that seems simple to me. I made a comic book sheet

that I want to use to present my videos and transitions (somthing like that :

In each box, I want to place a video and then zoom + and zoom - between them for transitions.

I didn't find a simple solution without losing the quality of my videos.

I created a parent track in which I put my comic book sheet. In the children's tracks, I placed the different videos. This way, when I play with the zoom, my videos follow. 

The problem is that I can't find the size and original quality of a video when I zoom in on it in full screen.

I tried to leave my video in its original size (1080p) on the child track, then zoom in on the book sheet with the "track motion" button or "even pan/crop" to match the two. But when I then move the whole thing with the "parent motion", my page is cut off

 

I've been trying to find a solution for two days, but I can't do it. 

If someone could help me. Thanks a lot

 

 

 

 

 

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john_dennis wrote on 4/6/2019, 10:33 AM

I would assign a video to each of the "comic book" segments on the page.

Create a Vegas project for each of the videos and set the project properties to the pixel dimensions of the assigned segment.

Nest each segment project in the main project and us Track Motion to place in each segment position.

You can determine each segment pixel dimensions by "Saving a Snapshot to File" in Vegas and measuring it in a photo editor.

It sounds more complicated than it really is.    

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 11:45 AM

I would assign a video to each of the "comic book" segments on the page.

Create a Vegas project for each of the videos and set the project properties to the pixel dimensions of the assigned segment.

Nest each segment project in the main project and us Track Motion to place in each segment position.

You can determine each segment pixel dimensions by "Saving a Snapshot to File" in Vegas and measuring it in a photo editor.

It sounds more complicated than it really is.    

Thank you for your answer. I tried to do what you advised me to do. 

I zoomed into the first segment of my page with the "track motion" button to get the desired size. I made a capture that I opened in Photoshop where I measured the dimensions of this segment (1156x1059 pixels). 

I opened a new project with dimensions 1156x1059 pixels where I imported my first video. I made a rendering. 

Then I opened my main project. I imported my video on a "child" track of the track where the comic book is located. When I move the position to the second segment with the "parent motion", I have the same problem, the page is cut off.


 

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 11:56 AM

I feel like I have a problem with the size of my comic book page. If I zoom in and i move to another segment, my page is cuted off

john_dennis wrote on 4/6/2019, 3:01 PM

Lose the Parent / Child relationship.

Cut (to transparency) the windows out of your Comic Page .jpg and save as .PNG with transparency.

Resize and locate your nested projects on lower tracks with Pan/Crop.

Here's a starter project that you can reverse engineer.

john_dennis wrote on 4/6/2019, 3:07 PM

Here's what the first step looks like.

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 3:17 PM

Thank you for your time John, I really appreciate your help. I can realize the first step.

Then it gets more complicated. If you zoom in on the flag video, you lose quality, this is the first problem.

Then when you want to move the camera from first segment to second segment, the whole thing has to move, which is why I made a parent track and a child track. But at that moment, my page is cut off when I use the parent track

 

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 3:26 PM

This is exacly what I try to do :

john_dennis wrote on 4/6/2019, 3:59 PM

Increase your main project pixel dimensions to 4096x2304. Change your sub-projects to provide the aspect ratio of your mask window but stay closer to your media source, 1920x1080, etc. or not more than your final delivery pixel dimensions. Use Pan/Crop and Track Motion if you have to. You may struggle with Vegas Pan/Crop limit, but it can be a lot closer to your goal.

I have to go do some actual work.

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 4:30 PM

Thanks John, I will try

Dimitrios wrote on 4/6/2019, 4:55 PM

What I would try to do for that is create a large project in the dimensions of the borders. Or a close as possible to the frame limit in vegas. Put all the videos where they belong. Render that, then import that file into the actual timeline and pan and zoom around as needed. You can also easily add some 3D motion doing it that way like the first few clips here https://www.dropbox.com/s/di5t039wupj4001/REEL.mp4?dl=0

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 5:58 PM

Interesting idea. But what are the dimensional limits? 

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 6:05 PM

Interesting idea. But what are the dimensional limits? 

The maximum frame size is 4096×4096. It's not enoufh to put 9 videos in 1920x1080

Dimitrios wrote on 4/6/2019, 6:59 PM

Probably not but it might not look too bad and if you want to go full screen maybe replace them at those segments with the actual footage. Maybe with a border effect to match the panel?.

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 7:20 PM

It's a little complicated. I feel like my solution is the simplest.

Place 9 videos in full screen on a track. 
On a parent track, place my mask with the boxes. 
And adjust the size of my mask to my first video, then move the whole thing with the parent track to a new box. 

The only problem is that once I move the whole thing with the parent track, my mask is cut off and I can't resolve this. 
 

john_dennis wrote on 4/6/2019, 8:24 PM

With Vegas Pro's current 4096 x 4096 project size limitation the maximum resolution possible with my method is 960x540 for the video in the rectangular mask and 570 x540 for the video in the square mask.  

Project Here 

It looks like this...

Edit: Some devices can't /won't play 4096x2304 so I replaced with a 1080p version.

Your method would be simpler if it worked.

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 8:45 PM

With Vegas Pro's current 4096 x 4096 project size limitation the maximum resolution possible with my method is 960x540 for the video in the rectangular mask and 570 x540 for the video in the square mask.  

Project Here 

It looks like this...

Your method would be simpler if it worked.

Yes, indeed, that's the problem. Great work, John, thanks. I made a rendering of your master composition, I can't see if you lost quality when zooming in full screen ?

karma17 wrote on 4/6/2019, 9:08 PM

It might not be quite what you were looking for or maybe a little more than you wanted to spend, but some of these templates are worth the money strictly in terms of the time and headaches they save. Also, when you get the template, it is essentially a masterclass in Vegas because you can see exactly how they did it and usually I learn a lot in seeing that.

Photowall seems to be the closest to what you are wanting to do. But there may be some other ones in there you might like better.

https://vegasaur.com/sony-vegas-templates

 

east wrote on 4/6/2019, 9:25 PM

It might not be quite what you were looking for or maybe a little more than you wanted to spend, but some of these templates are worth the money strictly in terms of the time and headaches they save. Also, when you get the template, it is essentially a masterclass in Vegas because you can see exactly how they did it and usually I learn a lot in seeing that.

Photowall seems to be the closest to what you are wanting to do. But there may be some other ones in there you might like better.

https://vegasaur.com/sony-vegas-templates

 

Price is not a problem if template can match. I really need book look like wall, I d'ont know if photowall can do this

xberk wrote on 4/7/2019, 12:48 AM

Just dealing with the grid (or mask as you call it) and not using any images to fill the black boxes, I think what you are saying is that if you use pan/crop to zoom in on a particular box in your grid, the white lines appear to be cut off on one side (truncated) and do not bleed off the edge of the screen as you would like.  I think I see this problem in zooming in on your grid (mask) using pan crop but I don't see this happening when using track motion or parent motion to zoom in on the grid. 

But is this the main problem you are having?

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east wrote on 4/7/2019, 11:54 AM

Just dealing with the grid (or mask as you call it) and not using any images to fill the black boxes, I think what you are saying is that if you use pan/crop to zoom in on a particular box in your grid, the white lines appear to be cut off on one side (truncated) and do not bleed off the edge of the screen as you would like.  I think I see this problem in zooming in on your grid (mask) using pan crop but I don't see this happening when using track motion or parent motion to zoom in on the grid. 

But is this the main problem you are having?

Hi xberk, yes it's the main problem, and it's happening because I have to zoom on grid first with pan crop or track motion before to use parent track to move all videos on grid

xberk wrote on 4/7/2019, 1:31 PM

I'm able to zoom the grid using track motion while also using a matching track motion zoom for each image in each box. So you set each image in the box with track motion and you zoom on the grid via track motion and also zoom the image in each box to match the track motion of the grid. The time line looks like this.

This is a complex scheme that could run into trouble as you fill at nine boxes with images .. I tried Parent Motion and it is far easier to control but as you zoom in resolution in each box becomes a problem.

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east wrote on 4/7/2019, 2:37 PM

I'm able to zoom the grid using track motion while also using a matching track motion zoom for each image in each box. So you set each image in the box with track motion and you zoom on the grid via track motion and also zoom the image in each box to match the track motion of the grid. The time line looks like this.

This is a complex scheme that could run into trouble as you fill at nine boxes with images .. I tried Parent Motion and it is far easier to control but as you zoom in resolution in each box becomes a problem.

Yes it's a solution, but complex because I have a lot of video on each page, and a lot of elements on each video like images, lower third, texts ... it would be too long to implement with all these elements to move and zoom in, zoom out.

 

east wrote on 4/7/2019, 2:38 PM

I think John's solution is the most effective

xberk wrote on 4/7/2019, 2:56 PM

I assume you mean John's solution with Parent Motion to zoom in and out?

When I try that I don't see the problem of the mask (grid) being cut off. The only problem is image quality (resolution) when you zoom too far in.

 

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