Expanded Video Stabilizer and tutorial video

gary-rebholz wrote on 1/7/2019, 12:08 PM

We just wanted to remind you all that Update 3 of VEGAS Pro 16 includes greatly expanded tools for video stabilization. The tool can now be as easy or as complex as you want it to be--from one-click stabilization to complete control over every previously hidden parameter. This tool is really powerful now.

To help you understand everything that's there, we've produced a tutorial video. We're still working to get it posted to our website, but you can view it right now on YouTube:

Hopefully this answers any questions you had about the new stabilizer.

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Grazie wrote on 1/7/2019, 2:37 PM

Wow! Thanks MAGIX.

j-v wrote on 1/7/2019, 2:48 PM

Thank you Gary, great work to make this.
But now I'm missing the also written information about this new one.
The first 3/4 of your tutorial I can follow very good, but at the end you name some options from which I not fully know the exact result when used.
Is there a written Help coming/ is the team maybe working on it?

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Kinvermark wrote on 1/7/2019, 2:49 PM

+1. Thanks for the new stabilizer, and this tutorial.

One Question: what would be the optimal settings to get a "locked down tripod" look on footage that is already very stable?

 

Video_flaneur wrote on 1/7/2019, 10:31 PM

Thank you Gary. Do you or any other forum members have suggestions about which parameters to play with to remove "walkiness" - the slight up and down movement caused by someone walking with a handheld camera. Yes - I know - "buy a gimbal" - but I have a host of legacy footage in need of improvement. Any suggestions welcome.

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Grazie wrote on 1/8/2019, 1:30 AM

I really must be doing something wrong? After applying BASIC and then STABILIZE I'm getting a Black Screen in Preview:

BEFORE:

AFTER - Black Screen Preview:

Any ideas Gary? Anybody? - Just checked, and the MERCALLI Plugin still working fine.

Grazie wrote on 1/8/2019, 2:57 AM

O...K... I needed to turn off GPU Acceleration. Finally I've got a piece of VP S/W that requires an U/G to my GPU. Hmmm... I'm wondering what I'm gonna do?

D7K wrote on 1/8/2019, 9:54 AM

I just did a 20 second piece of sea lions on a moving small warf - using professional and warp it did as well as MercalliPRO 4.0, I am impressed. That's with my AMD 480 8 gig still on.

Peter_P wrote on 1/8/2019, 11:03 AM

@gary-rebholz

The tool can now be as easy or as complex as you want it to be--from one-click stabilization to complete control over every previously hidden parameter. This tool is really powerful now.

Thanks Gary. This is a big step improving the Vegas internal stabilizer. But, can you please leave a word, why this is only available as a Media FX ?

There are some reasons why an Event FX  stabilizer can be used much more flexible if you want to map out some objects to hide its motion to the stabilizer or using footage with low contrast.

gary-rebholz wrote on 1/8/2019, 11:26 AM

But, can you please leave a word, why this is only available as a Media FX ?

As much as we want to make this possible, it is (as with mostly everything in the VEGAS code) exceptionally complicated to implement. That is true despite what, from the outside, probably seems like a logical and easy implementation. Because VEGAS is so flexible, there always seem like a million different scenarios that have to be considered when implementing these types of changes.

We are very well sensitive to the (justifiable) outcry when we implement a new feature that breaks something that has "always" worked in VEGAS, and this is definitely a dangerous area of the code for us to be working through. It is fraught with potential pitfalls. Therefore, we are taking great care to implement this and trying to make sure that we are not causing users more problems than we are fixing.

We completely understand the need for event-level stabilization, and we are working on it. But I can't make any promises about when we will feel comfortable enough with what we have to release it.

 

Kinvermark wrote on 1/8/2019, 1:55 PM

This probably explains why Mercalli v4 was never totally stable (it's applied as an event fx.)

But just to selfishly bump my previous question :)

what would be the optimal settings to get a "locked down tripod" look on footage that is already very stable?

 

I find the stabilizer does a great job of smoothing "bad" footage, but does not "clamp down" footage that already has little movement. Maybe it is not intended to work this way. Anyone confirm?

VEGASPascal wrote on 1/8/2019, 2:15 PM

@Kinvermark There is no general answer. Without seeing the footage I would recommend to use "Translation" and to use a high value for smoothing. Maybe show us an example or upload to Dropbox to give you some recommendation.

Robert Johnston wrote on 1/8/2019, 2:36 PM

The tutorial for Basic mode shows a slider for smoothing. That must be coming in the next version as there is no slider in Basic mode in Vegas 16 (352) -- unless there's something wrong with my system. I like Expert mode - Warp, but I spend more time than I like trying to find the optimum settings for a particular clip. Frequently, I need to use Mercalli for difficult clips. But by far, the current Vegas stabilizer is the best that Vegas has had, and it works very well with paired (2 cameras) stereoscopic 3D clips, whereas Mercalli requires special handling with my 3D clips.

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VEGASDerek wrote on 1/8/2019, 2:45 PM

The exclusion of the smoothing slider is a bug in build 352. That will be back in the next update.

Kinvermark wrote on 1/8/2019, 4:03 PM

@VEGASPascal

Thanks for the answer. I have tried that with no success. I will look for something suitable in the next day or two for uploading.

In the meanwhile, is it expected that the stabilizer can "lock down" footage or is there always a minimum amount of movement? It's OK if it can't, I just want to know. :)

Vegas_Sebastian wrote on 1/9/2019, 2:11 AM

t the stabilizer can "lock down" footage or is there always a minimum amount of movement? It's OK if it can't, I just want to know. :)

Current version of stabilizer does not have such "lock down" mode.

Kinvermark wrote on 1/9/2019, 7:59 AM

That's OK. Would be a "nice to have" feature, but really, the smoothing of high-motion clips is very good.

Vegas_Sebastian wrote on 1/23/2019, 5:36 AM

I really must be doing something wrong? After applying BASIC and then STABILIZE I'm getting a Black Screen in Preview:

BEFORE:

AFTER - Black Screen Preview:

Any ideas Gary? Anybody? - Just checked, and the MERCALLI Plugin still working fine.

That problem will be fixed in the next update. In the meantime, you can use another "edge filling" option or set the preview quality to "Draft".