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Rednroll wrote on 7/28/2021, 5:12 PM

Are you announcing VLC updates now? You're going to be a busy fella, seems they come out with a new update every 2-4 weeks. 😃

Whenever I find I need to restore my C: drive back to a previous HDD image where I keep all my programs and OS installed, there's always a few common programs I use which then need to be re-updated since there's always newer release updates available. Everything else, only if I go back about 8-12 months will I need to update.

1. VLC

2. Notepad++

3. FreeFile Sync

4. Reaper

Grazie wrote on 7/29/2021, 12:20 AM

Are you announcing VLC updates now? You're going to be a busy fella, seems they come out with a new update every 2-4 weeks. 😃

@Rednroll - Ah yes, you guessed correctly: I'm just so busy Spreading the Luvvvvv . . . 😎

fifonik wrote on 7/29/2021, 3:14 AM

A bit off topic: Not sure why people use VLC on Windows. It is slow on startup (unless u hav Monstaaa) and its UI is ugly. You should try MPC-BE or MPC-HC. Both are free, open source, support many formats without additional decoders, have better functionality (for example: you can play & download from youtube/youpron) and UI that looks more native for Windows :)

P.S. For someone who does not want to update some free popular programs like VLC one by one -- use ninite. Create customized installer once and then run it from time to time to update selected programs at once. For free (payed version provide more options that I do not need).

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FayFen wrote on 7/29/2021, 4:34 AM

Why don't you use portable versions, and place apps anywhere regardless of system backups?

I recommend https://portableapps.com/ with ton of apps.

**I use VLC to view/listen to streams across the flat earth.

Grazie wrote on 7/29/2021, 5:06 AM

As I said:

For those who don't, ignore it 😎.

Gotta luv a Forum 😉.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 7/29/2021, 6:17 AM

PotPlayer is the best in my book !.... (tried them all).

Dexcon wrote on 7/29/2021, 8:17 AM

@Steve_Rhoden  ... my alert comment has now been deleted. Cheers.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 7/29/2021, 10:18 AM

A bit off topic: Not sure why people use VLC on Windows. It is slow on startup (unless u hav Monstaaa) and its UI is ugly. You should try MPC-BE or MPC-HC. Both are free, open source, ...

Last official Windows release of MPC-HC is here... back on 2017. MPC-BE is it's successor. Keep both VLC and MPC-HC around but MPC-BE has built-in codec support for more video formats. For instance, I had to preview some Canon XF705 mxf footage the other day and everything, including Vegas and VLC, choked on it. But not MPC-BE. MediaInfo:

General
Complete name                            : D:\XF705_A003C002H1901045W_CANON.MXF
Format                                   : MXF
Format version                           : 1.3
Format profile                           : OP-1a
Format settings                          : Closed / Complete
File size                                : 301 MiB
Duration                                 : 16 s 16 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 157 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : 2019-01-04 12:01:59.000
Writing application                      : CANON XF705 1.00

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : 0E15000402100001-0E15000500013000
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame
Codec ID                                 : 0E15000402100001-0E15000500013000
Duration                                 : 16 s 16 ms
Bit rate                                 : 153 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.307
Stream size                              : 292 MiB (97%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

 

Rednroll wrote on 7/29/2021, 11:01 AM

A bit off topic: Not sure why people use VLC on Windows. It is slow on startup (unless u hav Monstaaa) and its UI is ugly. You should try MPC-BE or MPC-HC. Both are free, open source, support many formats without additional decoders, have better functionality (for example: you can play & download from youtube/youpron) and UI that looks more native for Windows :)

P.S. For someone who does not want to update some free popular programs like VLC one by one -- use ninite. Create customized installer once and then run it from time to time to update selected programs at once. For free (payed version provide more options that I do not need).


Thanks for the suggestions. VLC is just an old habit for me at this point. When something works, you become familiar with using it and does most everything you need, then I just tend to stick with it. Familiar story as to why I still use Vegas for the majority of my audio work while there's much better apps on the audio side at this point. I agree VLC's interface isn't the prettiest thing I've used but then again neither is Handbrake and I use that as well because on the most part, it just works for everything I've thrown at it.

I have CCLeaner on my system, which sounds like it does a similar task as ninite of checking for updates, CCL notifies me when some apps have an update but unsure how it decides which ones are on its checklist.

Reyfox wrote on 7/29/2021, 3:36 PM

I too use MPC-BE over VLC now. I tried to view Panasonic 10bit 422 4K MOV with VLC, and I had to use Task Manager to end VLC. MPC-BE played it back just fine.

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wwaag wrote on 7/29/2021, 3:56 PM

@Howard-Vigorita

"Last official Windows release of MPC-HC is here..."

There is continuing development of MPC-HC with updates released almost monthly. Here's a link to the latest release. https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases/tag/1.9.14

As an aside, HappyOtterScripts makes use of MPC-HC for a number of additional reasons. First, it supports preview of Avisynth filter files (*.avs) which enable such things as split screen preview; second, it also supports playback filters (shaders) comparable to Computer to Studio RGB or Studio to Computer RGB levels filters in Vegas; and third which is probably of no interest to most users is that it supports command line operation.

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fifonik wrote on 7/29/2021, 6:39 PM

@Howard-Vigorita

Last official Windows release of MPC-HC is here... back on 2017.

Nope. It is still developed. I provided link to the new project location (github).

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fifonik wrote on 7/29/2021, 6:41 PM

@Steve_Rhoden

PotPlayer is the best in my book !.... (tried them all).

I used to use it until it became AdWare. Not any longer.

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fifonik wrote on 7/29/2021, 6:48 PM

As I said:

For those who don't, ignore it 😎.

Gotta luv a Forum 😉.

Sorry for that.

The topic is related to Video Player that is very important program for people who do video editing.

I only suggested free alternative that is better in some aspects (on my son's slow school laptop VLC that is installed by default is opening 5+ seconds, while MPC -- less than 2 seconds, this is huge difference). Just ignore the suggestion if you not interested in it, but some people may decide to try it.

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fifonik wrote on 7/29/2021, 6:55 PM

@Rednroll

I have CCLeaner on my system, which sounds like it does a similar task as ninite of checking for updates, CCL notifies me when some apps have an update but unsure how it decides which ones are on its checklist.

No, it is different. Ninite is not just notify that program got a new version, but download and install updated version without you manually go through install wizards. Also, it is you who specifying what programs to check/update.

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Grazie wrote on 7/30/2021, 2:56 AM

Great thread! So much more information than just that VLC update.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 7/31/2021, 3:12 PM

@Howard-Vigorita

"Last official Windows release of MPC-HC is here..."

There is continuing development of MPC-HC with updates released almost monthly. Here's a link to the latest release. https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases/tag/1.9.14

Thanks for the release link. The new build looks pretty good and was able to play the xf705 clip.

Phil_P wrote on 8/4/2021, 5:23 AM

I also had no idea MPC-HC was still in dev. This made my day (when I read it last week). Thanks for pointing that out @wwaag :-)