@Grazie It's like most software, one-off price for this major version and you get all future minor version releases at no added cost. We intend to include as many features possible into each minor release so that our existing users will benefit and we mostly focus on selling to new users/integrate with new tools and so on.

- Poz

Is technically possible to send the audio to a DAW and create music in the DAW, MIDI, WAV, modify Vegas WAV etc.. etc... with your technology?

Would be incredibly appealing if you can also have FrameServer functions somewhat as its own self contained renderer.

Is technically possible to send the audio to a DAW and create music in the DAW, MIDI, WAV, modify Vegas WAV etc.. etc... with your technology?

@supergafudo Today it is possible to frameserve a video from one instance of Vegas to another tool (including another instance of Vegas), but while frameserving it isn't possible to keep editing it in Vegas. Similarly, it could work if you want to send audio from Vegas to a DAW and edit it in there, but it's not possible to edit in both Vegas and DAW at the same time. Is that what you were asking about?

- Poz

Would be incredibly appealing if you can also have FrameServer functions somewhat as its own self contained renderer.

@Steve_Rhoden Can you elaborate more on what you mean by 'self contained renderer'? Do you mean if it created production quality videos directly (without needing another encoder), or if it supported effects/plugins while frameserving, or something else?

- Poz

Is technically possible to send the audio to a DAW and create music in the DAW, MIDI, WAV, modify Vegas WAV etc.. etc... with your technology?

@supergafudo Today it is possible to frameserve a video from one instance of Vegas to another tool (including another instance of Vegas), but while frameserving it isn't possible to keep editing it in Vegas. Similarly, it could work if you want to send audio from Vegas to a DAW and edit it in there, but it's not possible to edit in both Vegas and DAW at the same time. Is that what you were asking about?

- Poz

Yes, the idea is to use a poweful DAW to create music at the same time you edit in Vegas. Sometimes in the process of composing music the video does not fit correctly, and instead of changing the whole composition, is easy to modify a bit the video, for example enlarging some scene or cut later the clip etc... because when you compose music you need to be very concrete with the tempo and timing, because if not, it would sound really bad. Video is much more flexible, enlarging some edits 3 seconds in a video is really easy but in the music composition is problematic because everything need to be in coordination to sound good.

I have been asking magix several years for this and would be an incredible feature. As I understand, the technology you use cannot operate both ways.

I think increasing the audio an midi capabilities of vegas, adding for example a mini midi DAW and a midi keyboard in the timeline, near video and audio, would something be awesome because you can make music at the same time you edit.

Thank you for your rapid reply.

BTW, do your software works with Blender video editing? Is possible to serve from vegas to blender video?

@poz_cumincode meaning to create production quality videos directly, without the need another encoder. Similar to what Voukoder does.

@poz_cumincode meaning to create production quality videos directly, without the need another encoder. Similar to what Voukoder does.

Thank you, that helps. At a cursory glance, looks like Voukoder packages ffmpeg codecs into an easy-to-consume export plugin. Is that correct? If yes, we are looking to add ffmpeg export in the next release and could provide a way to connect the two.

BTW, do your software works with Blender video editing? Is possible to serve from vegas to blender video?

I just tested with Blender's video sequence editor. Blender can't open AVI files generated by the current version of FrameServer, but it can open AVI files generated by our upcoming next release!

- Poz

A new build of HappyOtterScripts has just been released which supports the new CuminCoder, allowing direct 10 bit frameserving and the pause/resume function. At the moment, it is supported only in the RenderPlus tool but will be added to the remaining tools that use frameserving in the next release. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/happy-otter-scripts-for-vegas-pro--113922/?page=36#ca821605

@wwaag, do we have to buy FrameServer 4.1 to use the new build of HappyOtterScripts?

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@J-Toresen

"do we have to buy FrameServer 4.1 to use the new build of HappyOtterScripts?"

No. If you click on 10-bit in R+, it will give you the option to go the CC website for a trial and/or purchase. Although supported, it is not required for continued HOS operation. Having said that, it is highly recommended--especially for anyone using HOS who wants to maintain a 10bit pipeline without first rendering directly to a 10bit intermediate. Plus, it does have the pause option which is not available in the original frameserver.

hmmm. on one side, its cool that it supports now 10bit, on the other to pay for it now, is very annoying :-/

I suggest you build a free version with paid premium features.

Free : With free features from old frameserver

Paid : New features like connection from After Effects to Vegas Pro ( Many Vegas users work with After Effects ), connection from Vegas to ffmpeg,Premiere,AVID,Resolve, etc.

@lan-mLMC The free version already exists and works, both standalone and via HOS. There isn't much to do there. So, we are focused on the paid version with the new features that you mentioned, and really improve the workflow for you all.

We just released the next version, FrameServer 4.21 . Check out the post for more details https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/frameserver-4-21-released-supporting-ffmpeg-resolve-more--132046/

@Steve_Rhoden This new version can be used as a "self contained renderer" by configuring it to run ffmpeg or any other encoder you need automatically. Check it out.

@supergafudo This new version is compatible with Blender Video, so you can now frameserve from Vegas to Blender, ffmpeg, TMPGenc, Resolve and more.

Throughout the years I've seen mention of a "frameserver" in VP and with Happy Otter and such. I've never really understood, or had the time to google, what the use case for this is.

Is there a link any of you can recommend to help me get educated on the subject?

In particular, when is it a desirable choice and when is it absolutely necessary vs just kind of another way to get the same job done.

TIA

@michael-harrison If you need to use multiple tools to process your video, e.g. use VP for editing/FX and ffmpeg for encoding or VP for editing/FX and Resolve for color correction, typically you'd render out as an uncompressed video file (and wait for minutes/hours to complete, use a ton of disk space) and then open that video in the next tool. A FrameServer skips this middle step. It is an export plugin-in that you use from VP to render out a "virtual AVI file", one that you can use in the next tool you need, without creating a full uncompressed video. FrameServer generates each video frame in real-time and passes via memory to the next tool in your workflow, saving you hours and gigabytes of disk space.