Help me build my PC

AlonGutman wrote on 12/9/2019, 9:13 AM

I'm a newbie in all this.
I'm building an AMD based PC for video editing.

I will be using Vegas pro 17 to edit projects that consist of up to 30 FHD video tracks playing simultaneously.

Here's an example: (You can watch just a couple of seconds)

I want to build a machine that will keep the preview window of such projects smooth without lagging.
That is the main concern, without which it would be impossible to edit such projects.

I was thinking of getting:
Ryzen 7 3800X 3,9Ghz
Motherboard based on X570 chipset
RAM DDR4 32GBx2 3200Ghz CL16 or lower

My main question is about a GPU card, which I have no idea how to chose.
Could use some help.

Also, will it be enough using a single PCIe Gen4 SSD, or should I set a RAID of 2 SSDs ?

Comments

fred-w wrote on 12/9/2019, 3:55 PM

Here's an example: (You can watch just a couple of seconds)

.I'm a pro musician, your music and presentation is brilliant. Kudos!

2080 ti, if you could afford, as far as FPM playback, OR the Vega 64 if you can supply the power/cooling (It's cheaper (you want water cooled, $350-450 w. cooler) and matches the 2080 ti in playback. I've had decent to very good performance from AMD over they years, graphic wise, in spite of the cat calling here. The quadro cards, NVIDIA are another choice, if you can spend.

Less spendy, NVIDIA, 2060 maybe, which I have, in the $300-350 range.

Ideally You'd want one SSD for OS, (or OS/Program) one for program, one or more for files ("or more" could be raid, I've not fussed with RAID for a long time, someone else can chime in here). Can't maximize anything with just one. Don't go with any less than three drives.

fifonik wrote on 12/9/2019, 4:06 PM

You do not really need 64GB of RAM as it will not be used by VP. Also, RAID SSD is overkill until you are going to edit multi-cam 4K+.

john_dennis wrote on 12/9/2019, 10:39 PM

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AlonGutman wrote on 12/11/2019, 10:01 AM

Here's an example: (You can watch just a couple of seconds)

.I'm a pro musician, your music and presentation is brilliant. Kudos!

2080 ti, if you could afford, as far as FPM playback, OR the Vega 64 if you can supply the power/cooling (It's cheaper (you want water cooled, $350-450 w. cooler) and matches the 2080 ti in playback. I've had decent to very good performance from AMD over they years, graphic wise, in spite of the cat calling here. The quadro cards, NVIDIA are another choice, if you can spend.

Less spendy, NVIDIA, 2060 maybe, which I have, in the $300-350 range.

Ideally You'd want one SSD for OS, (or OS/Program) one for program, one or more for files ("or more" could be raid, I've not fussed with RAID for a long time, someone else can chime in here). Can't maximize anything with just one. Don't go with any less than three drives.

Thanks, Fred.

The video is not mine, but I do agree that this work is brilliant.
I'm doing something similar in Russian ;)

A couple of following questions:
About additional SSDs.

As far as I understand, The Ryzen 3000 series CPUs have 24 PCIe lanes.
16 of them go to the extension slot, which will be fully populated by the GPU card.
4 are used to communicate with the Chipset, which in turn multiplies them into 16 more lanes, but obviously cannot multiply the actual bandwidth
4 last ones go to storage devices, and can be populated by a single SSD NVMe device.

This means that only 1 SSD can benefit from the full bandwidth of the PCIe x4.
The rest will have to use the multiplexed channels provided by the chipset.

The question is:
In case I use several SSDs, as you've suggested, which one should be connected the channel managed directly by the CPU?
The one with the O.S. or the one with the work files?
Or maybe they should both be on the main SSD after all?

j-v wrote on 12/11/2019, 10:23 AM

The one with the O.S. or the one with the work files?
Or maybe they should both be on the main SSD after all?

In my set-up I have 1 SSD devided in 2 partitions, one for OS and programs and one for writing files by Vegas.
All the default OS locations for Video/Audio/Images a.s.o are replaced to other "normal" but fast drives. Because reading and sometimes decoding of those files and other sourcefiles may take some time (the program cannot load them faster).

fred-w wrote on 12/11/2019, 3:48 PM

The question is:
In case I use several SSDs, as you've suggested, which one should be connected the channel managed directly by the CPU?
The one with the O.S. or the one with the work files?
Or maybe they should both be on the main SSD after all?

Probably the OS, maybe w program installed on same "C:" drive. if you are "feeding" video off of a couple of dedicated SSD Drives, or non SSD raid, or not on the PCI buss, that's probably gonna give you plenty of through put. Main idea is not having video, OS, program all feeding from one drive, the more the merrier, as they say.

Former user wrote on 12/13/2019, 2:19 AM

Main problem I had with Vegas being on my system drive was that I would wear out SSD fast.,Now vegas is on a dedicated drive where media files are imported to, and it's temporary files and video caches. As it's a larger capacity with higher quality memory it's probably more likely to die in a random event rather than exceeding it's lifetime writes