HEVC to Vimeo Using Vegas 14-161

john_dennis wrote on 10/17/2016, 8:41 PM

I took the weekend off. I took a camera, but no tripod, no microphone and little else. During a break in the three-day storm that covered the west slope of the Sierra, I went down to the beach at Lake Tahoe. The water was rough from the wind, pushing the crayfish on to the beach. Of course the bears love this! 

Back at the homestead, I decided to see how Vegas Pro 14 renders HEVC.

This 43:08 (SS:ff) video took 24:15 (MM:SS) to encode. 

Since I don't have a revenue stream to support it, when I use Vimeo, I live within the 500 MB per week upload limitation they impose for free users. That was my rationale for doing the HEVC test for Vimeo. 

Upload File Properties     

General
Complete name                       : C:\Users\John\Desktop\Test Projects\2016-10-15 Lake Tahoe.mov
Format                                     : MPEG-4
Format profile                          : Base Media
Codec ID                                  : iso4 (iso4/hvc1)
File size                                   : 55.8 MiB
Duration                                   : 43 s 335 ms
Overall bit rate mode               : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 10.8 Mb/s
Encoded date                          : UTC 2016-10-18 00:29:28
Tagged date                            : UTC 2016-10-18 00:29:28

Video
ID                                             : 1
Format                                     : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                          : Main@L4@High
Codec ID                                  : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                           : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                   : 43 s 335 ms
Bit rate                                     : 10.6 Mb/s
Width                                       : 1 920 pixels
Height                                      : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                 : 16:9
Frame rate mode                     : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                             : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                  : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                    : 0.214
Stream size                              : 54.9 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                           : UTC 2016-10-18 00:29:28
Tagged date                             : UTC 2016-10-18 00:29:28

Audio
ID                                             : 2
Format                                     : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                          : LC
Codec ID                                  : 40
Duration                                   : 43 s 264 ms
Bit rate mode                           : Variable
Bit rate                                     : 184 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                    : Front: L R
Sampling rate                          : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                              : 974 KiB (2%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                           : UTC 2016-10-18 00:29:28
Tagged date                             : UTC 2016-10-18 00:29:28

Notes

Windows Media Player would not play the file (Quicktime is not on this machine). 

Vegas 14-161 can play it in the small preview window but would not play the file using full screen preview.

34 X real time for the render is asking a lot from my patience on a 3770(k) system. (EDIT: Encode Quality slider at 7.)

Vimeo didn't seem to have a problem with the format, encoding it quickly on a Monday afternoon. 

For all you pixel-peepers, here's a link to one of the source files.

 

Comments

john_dennis wrote on 10/17/2016, 9:11 PM

Spoiler Alert!

My "go to" Vegas2Handrake encode was only 4.35 MB larger and encoded in ~ real time.

NickHope wrote on 10/17/2016, 10:58 PM

Thanks for the test John. Have you tried Handbrake HEVC, or only AVC?

john_dennis wrote on 10/17/2016, 11:25 PM

I've only encoded avc in Handbrake.

NickHope wrote on 10/18/2016, 12:16 AM

Might be worth a shot if you're still in testing mode.

john_dennis wrote on 10/18/2016, 11:51 AM

I've held my Handbrake version at 0.9.9.5530 because of an admonition from Musicvid that the best AAC encoder was removed in later versions and it works reliably. This version doesn't support HEVC, but I might get a round tuit in.

john_dennis wrote on 10/18/2016, 12:16 PM

So! I learned something. Move the Encode Quality slider at your peril. 

I rendered the same project today but left the Encode Quality slider at the default (4). The 43:08 (SS:ff) video rendered in 03:28 (MM:SS). Only 4.8 X real time. The resulting file was 436 KB larger than the first rendered file (Encode Quality =7).

Putting both files back on the Vegas 14 timeline, one on top of the other, and setting the alpha to difference, I could see that there was a visible difference between the two in full screen preview.