New Apple MacPro announcement

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OldSmoke wrote on 1/7/2014, 8:40 AM
GeeBax

Here you go http://www.tomtom.com/en_us/products/car-navigation/tomtom-navigation-for-iphone-ipad/navigation-app/?WT.Click_Link=home_quick_link#tab:maps

I am with JohnnyRoy, GM doesn't get it… wouldn't be the first time.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

wwjd wrote on 1/7/2014, 9:25 AM
Vegas runs on Mac? I don't see that in the Requirements
Chienworks wrote on 1/7/2014, 9:44 AM
Vegas runs on a Mac ... running Windows.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/7/2014, 11:17 AM
> Posted by: Chienworks "Vegas runs on a Mac ... running Windows. "

...or a Mac running VMware Fusion running Windows: ;-)



Note the Vegas Pro icon in my dock and full integration with my Mac desktop (drag-n-drop, cut-n-paste, etc.).

~jr
drmathprog wrote on 1/7/2014, 11:41 AM
So you're having success with Fusion? I've tried Parallels 9 on my mid-2009 MBP and it has severe trouble with several windows programs on Win 7, including Vegas. I'm in the process of studying Boot Camp as an alternative, giving up all the OSX/Windows interoperability for stability, hopefully.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/7/2014, 11:54 AM
> Posted by: drmathprog "So you're having success with Fusion?"

Yes, I'm using Fusion 6 with Windows 7 64-bit and it works really well. Fusion will even see your BootCamp partition so if you had a BootCamp partition and wanted to check something in Windows really quick and not reboot, Fusion will boot that partition in a virtual machine for you right on your desktop.

The only thing you loose with Fusion is OpenGL/OpenCL/CUDA support. VMware Fusion only has 3D support for DirectX. This is why you would still need to use BootCamp to get native OpenGL support for things like Boris BCC/RED or OpenCL/CUDA support for Sony GPU FX and rendering.

I'm really happy with it, but not as happy as having a native implementation of Vegas Pro for Mac like I do with Sound Forge for Mac (which is also very nice)

~jr
deusx wrote on 1/7/2014, 12:27 PM
>>>Why on earth would I want apps for my car when I already have apps on my smart phone that's in my car with me?<<<

When you kill somebody while using iPhone and driving, maybe it will become clearer?

>>> I switched from Windows to Linux to Mac and with Mac OS X I get the best of Unix stability with the ease of use of Apple software. It's a win-win scenario.<<<

The problem with that argument is it's complete nonsense and a lie. It implies that Linux and OSX are more stable than Windows which is total Bull$hit. Ease of use is just as bull$hity. How is any Apple software easier to use than Vegas, or Flash, or ( insert any software name here ). It's the same thing. Mac Photoshop or Windows Photoshop, how is one easier to use than the other?

You are using Fox news tactics. You just come out and say A is better than B because ( insert a lie like an event that never actually happened or a stat that doesn't really exist here )
drmathprog wrote on 1/7/2014, 1:07 PM
>>> I switched from Windows to Linux to Mac and with Mac OS X I get the best of Unix stability with the ease of use of Apple software. It's a win-win scenario.<<<

I think this was intended to express the author's opinion. It's not an argument. Only the author knows whether or not it a lie. If it's complete nonsense the problem lies in the reader and not the author.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/7/2014, 1:15 PM
> Reply by: deusx "When you kill somebody while using iPhone and driving, maybe it will become clearer?"

Can you explain how looking at the display on the GM dashboard is any different than look at the display on a smart phone that is mounted on your dashboard? (or a GPS mounted on your dashboard for that matter)

> Reply by: deusx "It implies that Linux and OSX are more stable than Windows which is total Bull$hit."

Was that the implication that you read into it? Because I never mentioned Windows. I only said that OS X gave me the stability of Unix with the usability of Apple software.

I switched from Windows to Linux because I make heavy use of virtual machines in my work and I can get twice as many virtual machines running on Linux as I could on Windows using the exact same hardware.

~jr
Rob Franks wrote on 1/7/2014, 3:26 PM
"Vegas runs on Mac? I don't see that in the Requirements "
NO. There is no Vegas for mac.
It has to run under windows which some macs can run. If you have an older mac however it will not work.
Terje wrote on 1/8/2014, 1:08 PM
>> I abandoned Windows in favor of Linux several years ago.

I installed Slackware back in the Linux 0.97 days, it was fun, and I've used it for Ruby and Java deployments since. Mostly because it is Unix, and that was what I was educated on. Note that I said deployments, not development. Linux is, compared to Windows and OSX a joke when it comes to usability. Simple things like Copy/Paste works off and on in significant apps like Eclipse. This is due to the joke of UI framework used on Linux, namely X. Anything you put on top of X, be it Gnome or KDE, is just makeup on that horror of a Pig that is X. There are efforts to get to a new GUI framework that is not built on X, but "nobody" is working on apps for it. Nobody ever will since there will be at least three different systems coming out, all of them half-baked.

Honestly, considering Linux has been out for quite a few years, the fact that there is still no usable UI for it is absurd.

>> The problem with Linux is that there isn't much commercial software
>> for it and nothing installs easily.

That is one problem. Another problem encountered just before Christmas was when I wanted to upgrade to a new version of one of the distros I have installed. It announced early on that there was no upgrade path for the installs and customizations I had made. In other words, except from my data, it would essentially wipe my system clean.

Linux will, for these and many, many, many more reasons never become mainstream in anything but it's Android implementation. An implementation that is fine, but still, as it comes to usability, a sad, sad, sad joke.
DiDequ wrote on 1/9/2014, 2:12 AM
Terje,
>>Linux will, for these and many, many, many more reasons never become mainstream in anything but it's Android implementation. An implementation that is fine, but still, as it comes to usability, a sad, sad, sad joke.

This is your opinion.

Linux is useful for me.
I only use Linux for internet applications.
I only use Linux for Blender creations.
I only use it for some old Ms sofwtares that cannot run anymore under 7 or 8. No need of a W95 virtual machine !!!

I have no copy paste issues under Linux, exept with blender, but it also use other shortcuts under Windows and Osx ... ( Copy/paste is Ok with text functions like the text editor or the text mesh)

I did already wrote this : Windows, Linux, Osx : there is no perfect OS today. This is sad.

This is my opinion : we all have different needs. We think different from one country to another (Colors significations for example)

Didier.
ushere wrote on 1/9/2014, 3:24 AM
bring back the amiga ;-)
GeeBax wrote on 1/9/2014, 4:26 AM
Yer, and the MicroBee!
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/9/2014, 9:48 AM
I miss CP/M.

I use to run it on my Apple ][+ with a Z80 card. I developed a royalty application for Henson Associates with it in COBOL back in 1982. Gosh those were happy times. I use to love sneaking around the "creature shop". There were no Mac vs PC fights back then because the PC didn't even exist yet. lol ( ...and I still have my Apple ][+ ) :-)

~jr
DiDequ wrote on 1/9/2014, 10:19 AM
Atari and a maxi beer instead of the MicroBee !
You could boot the Atari without floppy disks, you could play music with a simple desktop... Today, we need Mb or Gb just for our OS !

Id did a simple scanner for it, black and white, mounted on my printer (i had to remove the head). At that time, professional scanners were really too expensive.

I am joking - in the real life, a simple beer is enough for me.
Rob Franks wrote on 1/9/2014, 4:06 PM
"Gosh those were happy times."

Really? I'm kind of happy those times are gone. My first machine was the Apple 2c and I remember how dreadfully slow the dial up was. There was really no internet to speak of either. Just a bunch of local 'bulletin boards'.

Much happier man today with my PC :)
GeeBax wrote on 1/9/2014, 8:30 PM
Apple 2C - looxury!

Ah had to get oop at sparrow fart, carve 'puter out of block 'o stone, push keys till hands bled, do 'ardcopy on toilet paper, go 'ome, get a thrashin from me dad, and go to bed wivout dinner!
deusx wrote on 1/10/2014, 12:48 AM
>>>Was that the implication that you read into it? Because I never mentioned Windows. I only said that OS X gave me the stability of Unix with the usability of Apple software. <<<

Lie again. You do mention windows. Quote was: "I switched from WINDOWS to get stability of UNIX and with the ease of use of Apple software."

It's not even an implication, it is a clear statement that in your opinion Windows is less stable and that Mac software is easier to use. Both statements are total bull$hit.

Seriously, enjoy your mac and all the delusions that go with it, but there's no need to regurgitate stupid arguments that date back to 1980s, how Macs are more stable, easier to use and how artists prefer Macs. It's old bull$hit

The facts are that Windows is just as stable, if not more so than OSX and nobody can deny that there is far more professional software available for Windows.
ushere wrote on 1/10/2014, 1:21 AM
@ geebax - eeh lad, you 'ad it cumfortable al'right.... doon at the mill....
GeeBax wrote on 1/10/2014, 2:11 AM
An you try and tell the young people today of that, and they won't believe you.....
ushere wrote on 1/10/2014, 2:52 AM
ay, an i remembers this when it twere all green fields, full of rusting car bodies....
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/10/2014, 10:41 AM
> Posted by: deusx "Lie again. You do mention windows. Quote was: "I switched from WINDOWS to get stability of UNIX and with the ease of use of Apple software.""

Well... that is you "paraphrasing" my quote. Here is the actual quote:

"So I actually didn't switch from Windows to Mac, I switched from Windows to Linux to Mac and with Mac OS X I get the best of Unix stability with the ease of use of Apple software."

If you parse it in the way it was originally intended you would get this:

"So I actually didn't switch from Windows to Mac, I switched from Windows to Linux to Mac"

This was simply stating that I stopped using Windows at work long before I got my first Mac. Nothing more. At the point I got my first Mac I was already using Linux. As I later clarified, this switch was driven by Linux being able to handle more virtual machines than Windows on the same hardware.

"...and with Mac OS X I get the best of Unix stability with the ease of use of Apple software."

This is simply stating that when I moved from Linux to OS X I still had the stability of Unix with the usability of Apple software because Linux is very stable (we have servers that have been running for over a year without a reboot) but a bit hard to use at times.

So I never said that OS X was more stable than Windows. I haven't had any stability problem with my Windows 7 64-bit system at all. It's very stable. I wouldn't read anything more into it than I like Unix better than Windows for a variety of reasons.

~jr
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/10/2014, 10:48 AM
> Reply by: Rob Franks "There was really no internet to speak of either."

...and stores were closed on Sunday so people actually got in the car and went visiting each other on a Sunday afternoon. It was a much simpler time. :)

~jr