I have not had good experiences with Nero. I forget which was the last version I had. The burning software was OK. The DVD playback software was terrible.

Given the other comments in this thread, perhaps there is a reason why this software is named "Nero". ;-)
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Mike

This is EXACTLY what I was saying before in another thread with Farss. There is some software that raises hell with your other programs and such because it tends to install all or part of itself on auto startup... and doesn't bother to tell you or ask you.

After you install any of these new products these days you need to go through your config, services, and startup folders to see what they have done because 9 times out of 10... they have done MORE than you bargained for.

Well Blink after months of trouble free editing and rendering Vegas will now stop rendering part way through the render. Reason why Vegas fails now is because (drum roll) I shut down some services that have nothing to do with Vegas.
NMIndexerServ.exe encounters a problem, Windows catches that and stops Vegas and everything else from running waiting for a response from it's dialogue box. Thankfully this is pretty benign. I can click through the dialogue box and Vegas will go along on its merry way. Of course the renders that I expected to complete overnight haven't which is a bit of a pain but at least in this instance I can easily see what happened and will not be blaming Vegas.

As has been noted above in at least one post, ridding your computer of Nero's malware is no simple task at all. As I've seen, get it wrong and then things can go really south. Note that I didn't have a problem leaving both Nero's, True Image's and Google's services running. Trying to stop them running created a problem.

Bob.

"Reason why Vegas fails now is because (drum roll) I shut down some services that have nothing to do with Vegas."

It's a simple matter of doing your homework first.

"It's a simple matter of doing your homework first. "

YES! On this I agree.

However I'm yet to see any advantage in going down that road. If you've exhausted all other possibilities aggressively and Vegas is still crashing then it's worth pursuing, after all you can't make the situation any worse.

If you saw a recent post of mine regarding a dodgy disk toaster you'll see how easily one can jump to the wrong conclusions and go down a route that could make matters worse. All that seems to be wrong with the toaster is a dry joint and yet it caused all manner of symptoms, Vidcap suggested fixes that had nothing to do with the issue however because the real problem was intermittent doing anything could have created the illusion that the problem was fixed.

Bob.

"If you saw a recent post of mine regarding a dodgy disk toaster you'll see how easily one can jump to the wrong conclusions"

Bob,
Either you are right with a conclusion.... or you are wrong. Either way you'll not know unless you try. Of course you can always sit and complain..... and do nothing at all.

Just tried ImgBurn out, and after the first 10 min. I just love it - it seems as such a valuable application.

Just sorry I have not tried it before :-)

Thanks for bringing it up John and others...

/Ulf

Since we are on the Nero subject, I tried burning an 23 Gb ISO file created with DVDA 5 Pro to BR-D with DVDA, Nero 7, 8 & 9 and toasted 5 BR-D's in the process.

I bought a Plextor external Bu-Ray burner but so far all ISO burns crashed with DVDA Pro 5. Sometimes after just 26%, other times after 82%.
I use Nashua and Platinum BD-R 25 Gb discs.

I tried burning the ISO file with Nero 7, 8 & 9, but then again the burning process halts at 13%. I tried this from two PC's.

Nero support requires error messages, but there are none. The whole process just halts at a certain point and all I can do is cancel.

I already wasted 5 BR-D's this way and am going nuts.

I posted this also on the DVDA forum, but got no reaction.

Any help and/or suggestions would be appreciated.

~Dries.

"I already wasted 5 BR-D's this way and am going nuts."

They do make rewritable disks for testing purposes.

After spending years adding to my tool chest, I'm now putting equal effort into minimizing the number of tools I use.

There are many advantages to that, but it takes a lot of testing to see what works best for your specific needs, and you have to try to anticipate how key tools will evolve over several years. Example: A few years go, After Effects was near useless in many areas, so it needed complementing with other tools. Today it has gotten immensely more powerful, and it has given a lot of even high end competitors a run for the money.

I'm neutral on Nero good/bad. For what it is worth: I ran into the same problem installing Nero 9 on Vista 64. Using the Nero "general cleantool" solved it. Install then went smoothly, I have not seen any 'new' problems with applications. Nero was not on this system before. My principle use for Nero on this machine - Nero Showtime plays AVCHD (and many any other formats) better than any other tool I've found - (out of the 'box', without reconfiguration)

OK, after running smoothly for a while, Nero 9 started acting up. I uninstalled and reinstalled it. The reinstall took all day, and Nero still didn't work right. I almost gave up in frustration, then I looked back at this thread and took the advice of the previous post: I uninstalled Nero, used the "Nero CleanTool", then re-installed Nero 9.

The reinstall took about an hour (vs all day before) and now it seems to run perfectly. The Nero CleanTool can be found http://www.nero.com/enu/tools-utilities.html#tab4here.[/link]

I used Nero 6 for years and years and it served me well but ImgBurn does a more reliable job on my Dell laptop with Verbatim DVD+R. I still use Nero 6 on the desktop though.

I think it just has to do with the numerous PC - Hardware possibilities. That's one of the things with MAC... you don't really have much of a choice so things tend to be compatible by default.

Luckily, Nero has always worked for me. I'm running v9 with a custom install of the least amount of items. I tend to run it simply because most Studios or WorkStations I know... have it installed. It's kind of like learning Avid, FCP, Premiere, & Vegas; because I want to be compatible with whomever I'm working with. I hate trying to learn something new when I've won the Gig by 'knowing what I'm doing' or having a good workflow that saves time & earns money.

IMGBurn is definitely an excellent FREE burner.
Ashampoo Burning Studio is another NOT FREE one that I like... but there is Ashampoo Burning Studio FREE.
Roxio is still around also.

Star Burn Free Edition
Burn Aware Free
DeepBurner Free
cdburnerxp
PowerLaser Express
InfraRecorder Free
FinalBurner Free

If need be:
You can burn files/folders directly from Windows Explorer. Just drag and drop files into the DVD/CD burner’s drive.

does imgburn handle multiple recorders? (couldn't see anything about doing so on their site)?

if not, any suggestions?

leslie

I wouldn't touch anything from Roxio. I made the mistake of buying thier software once and ended up having to reinstall the operating system to get the mess it did undone.

I had used Nero 6 for years as well, then upgraded my new computer to nine and have been regretting it as well.

Hopefully that Nero Cleaner will work well.

Having used Roxio RecordNow DX for disk burning for many many coaster-free and 100% OS-trouble-free years on three machines, I'm curious which problems you experienced, in which applications, and in which OS.

Could it have been Vista? I haven't switched yet, even though I have a free Vista Ultimate package that came with my HP workstation (which I asked to get with XP installed).

My question is what does the Nero Cleaner remove from your system?
JJK

CourseDesign, it was under Windows 2000 a couple of years ago. The applications might have worked just fine, I would not have know as once I installed the software it took over my burner and ROM drives.

It killed Nero. Everytime I tried to access either drive it would popup like it was being invoked. It prevented me from installing other applications.

It started itself in the background using a hidden registry entry. I had to find that entry and manually remove it before I could use my computer again. Basically is made my computer useless to do anything outside of thier applications.

It was the worst application experience I have ever had with a computer system. I'll never trust thier software again.

Recently, my Wife signed up to one of those social networking sites and it required some software to be installed. Roxio again. Her computer was left a mess. There must have been one thousand registry entries. That was Windows XP.

We had to format and reinstall the operating system again to get it back to normal. Please understand, I am a very picky person as it relates to how my computer is messed with by applications. I really detest how Vegas forced sqlwriter, richvideo, and nbservice to start at boot time.

At least there are not constant popups from that mess and my drives still seem to act normally. I'll get around to writing a proper startup program that will start those things when Vegas starts, and kill them off when I exit Vegas.
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As far as Vista goes. I am never going to use that operating system. I tested it in my environment and had far too many problems and compatibility issues with it. The audio system in Vista is horrible. Avoiding the Vista audio mixer takes many registry patches. ASIO cannot get passed it without hacking the registry.

I cannot afford to fight operating system induced problems with my applications. XP Pro, with all its warts, is still a better audio editing platform than Vista.

I am pretty sure Windows 7 uses the same audio subsystem, so I may be stuck on XP for a while.

"As far as Vista goes. I am never going to use that operating system. I tested it in my environment and had far too many problems and compatibility issues with it. The audio system in Vista is horrible. Avoiding the Vista audio mixer takes many registry patches. ASIO cannot get passed it without hacking the registry."

This just isn't true at all.

Maybe YOUR system has compatibility issues... but I run nothing but ASIO (with Soundblaster X-FI elite pro sound card) with no issues and no hacking at all.

The compatibility problems I had were with several applications and are all well documented on Microsoft's MSDN site.

I did not say ASIO would not work. It does, but the current drivers cannot by-pass the Vista sound mixer without registry hacks. Those hacks are documented.

Here are some qoutes from others folks you might have more respect for.

Noel Borthwick, Cheif technology officer at Cakewalk; "Microsoft presented Vista as it was going to be released. We found some fundamental flaws. WaveRT is a new mechanism by which audio drivers would perform really well. There were a couple of flaws in the design. We pointed out the flaws before Vista shipped.
The end-user experience on consumer audio devices is pretty bad on Vista for the most part."

Robin Vincent of Rain Computers (they build digital audio workstations); "The WaveRT driver architecture can produce better performance," says Robin Vincent of Rain Computers, which builds PCs for musicians. "However, no one supports that. That's the problem." Currently Rain Computers will not ship Vista as an operating system for an audio workstation.

Steinberg's Lars Baumann believes Vista will improve. "We think Vista is going to be the future platform for audio applications, but it will take more time."

That's today. It will get better, but right now it is problematic.

I bought Nero 8 and found that it does quite nicely as a coffee doily still use it today no hassles only paid I think R2000.= 200 US
Its unfortunately not good enough for a beer doily that’s reserved by my pinnacle discs

John Cline gave us that link about 5 months ago when I had the same problem with Nero 8 so its come down in price so that’s a big improvement