OT Lack of professionalism and how it effects this forum

BillyBoy wrote on 4/6/2005, 9:56 AM

Once upon a time this forum was about what its suppose to be about; Vegas. That focus sadly was in the past. Now, more than not, this forum is infested will frequent off topic posts, blatant self promoting, endless injection of copyright issues in thread after thread, the future of HD and other peripheral topics that has caused this forum to get more noisy. If Vegas is mentioned at all its frequently about what's wished for in some future release. The friendliness and willingness to help each other is being replaced by one or more cliques that think they're better than the rest. Don't you know, they're "professional" implying nobody else is.

Discussion, what the forum is mostly suppose to be about is being replaced by more that want to shout down minority opinions. I don't pretend to have all the answers. That's someone else. I do understand Vegas and video editing in general rather well and frequently I'll offer alternate ideas and solutions. Lately, every time I express an opinion, I get attacked. After awhile it gets old. Different opinions are a good thing. Everyone thinking alike leads to boring cookie cutter results.

Since I have no agenda in posting here other than to try to help unlike someone else that uses this forum constantly to sell books, tapes and promote himself, I will cut back on my comments since it now seems everytime I express an opinion regardless of topic it often results in noise coming from one camp that fancies itself more "professional" then everyone else.

I use to enjoy posting here. Now it seems a few hot heads think they have a right to call me racist or scum whenever they feel like it and that gets old too, so there is little enjoyment left for me if I have to walk on eggshells and nearly ask permission from the "clique" if its ok to express an opinion. So I'll keep more of my opinions to myself.

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craftech wrote on 4/7/2005, 6:57 PM

That, however should not be taken to an extreme - I.E. "meh.. there's nothing I can do about that guy posting VEGAS SUCKS VEGAS SUCKS VEGAS SUCKS all the time. (the answer is not necessarily to argue with him, just report him to sony admins).
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Dave,
I hope you aren't referring to me.

John

PumiceT wrote on 4/7/2005, 7:41 PM

You know, BillyBoy... based on your name, I assumed you were a 'kid.' Your posts supported my assumption. You seemed to be an angry teen who needs to get into a [urination] match with whomever you happen to be disliking at the moment.

Then I realized you're actually quite a bit older than a teenager. Perhaps someone walked on your lawn recently?

While you do have some knowledge of many things that I have no clue about, you lack a couple things that I feel I have: Restraint, respect, and humility.

Where, exactly, is your professionalism? You're so free to claim others are lacking it, yet your posts sure don't make me want to go out and promote your services.

David Abraham wrote on 4/7/2005, 8:09 PM

ROFL, this is a hilarious thread.

John_Cline wrote on 4/7/2005, 9:26 PM

Hey David, if you think this thread is hilarious, check out the thead entitled, "Connecting a PC Monitor and Production Monitor ." It's a scream.

John

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 4/7/2005, 10:58 PM

Nope, not you in the least - honestly I don't even know why you would think so, so I'm pretty sure that I couldn't be refering to you. I wasn't refering to anyone as far as I know, just a potential situation.

Dave

MH_Stevens wrote on 4/7/2005, 11:44 PM

It's real late here in southern California. I've just driven home the 120 min drive from downtown LA and the first bottle of plonk is alraedy sunk so I hope my audience will give me some leeway with my typeing, spelling and logic.

Billy Boy is a, all be it a self proclaimed, a technition. He likes talk technical Vegas and has writen some good technical stuff I use. We all like some of that. Coursedesign said Vegas topics are getting to be in short supply. That is so true. Much of what can be said about Vegas 5 has been said. If something new comes up fine but we can not flog that old dead horse. There is another side to Vegas that Billy Boy does not want to be a part of. That is the Vegas community. More and more I see people here sharing their artistic lives centered on their connectivity through Vegas. I say to you BB, this is good. It is good for all of us and it is is very good for Vegas. Don't knock us just because we are not dry technitions and we like to be human as well as technically efficient Vegas editirs.

ottowr wrote on 4/7/2005, 11:59 PM

BB "I will cut back on my comments since it now seems everytime I express an opinion regardless of topic it often results in noise...."

If only you would.

chaboud wrote on 4/8/2005, 12:11 AM

People, please take it somewhere else, or (and this is really novel) stop behaving like this entirely.

This goes for everyone who has posted to this thread. We don't want to start banning users (especially around NAB), so, when you see a thread like this, please do your best to summon a modicum of restraint and move on to another thread.