Obviously! I'll lay some mines next time.

So after serialising the documentary over 20-weeks, I finally uploaded the whole 90-minute thing in its entirety.

As always I welcome feedback, both negative and positive. I'm always looking to improve any aspect of my filmmaking.

A huge amount of work went into this. If you enjoy it then please share to help it reach a wider audience.

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I've been viewing this piece meal over the past several months and must say this is the most amazing nature video I've ever seen. IMHO, Nick has surpassed anything I've seen from Jacques Cousteau. Nat'l Geo or BBC. Beyond fabulous!!

...Jerry

The quality of that video is beyond compare. Stunning, absolutely stunning.

BTW, is it only me, or does the credit crawl at the end of the film scroll "jerkily?" The rest of the video looked perfectly smooth on my display. With the credit crawl, I even tried reducing resolution to 480p, but it was still jerky (12 mbps Internet here).

Thank you very much Jerry and John.

John, I did my best with that credit roll. I did it with the old Text media generator in Vegas Pro 10 and created it at 1280x720p to overlay on my already-deinterlaced intermediates. I did the calculations (as per your guidelines) to make it crawl at 3 lines per frame. As such it should look pretty smooth (or at least "clean") when viewed at a full 25fps 720p, but maybe it looks jumpy exactly because it jumps an even number of lines per frame. Thoughts?

As such it should look pretty smooth (or at least "clean") when viewed at a full 25fps 720p, but maybe it looks jumpy exactly because it jumps an even number of lines per frame. Thoughts?If you could take the time to copy the text events containing just the credit roll, and then paste those into a project which has the same properties as your main project, and then save that VEG file and email it to me, I'll take a look and see if I can come up with some suggestions.

Thanks John. I copied the project and purged everything out of it except the text event. You'll need to do "save link as" to stop your browser trying to open this:

[url=http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21489814/Nick-Hope-end-credits-Vegas10.veg]

I also need to consider if I need to change the crawl-speed for the NTSC 480i DVD version.

Nick,

I opened your VEG file in Vegas 10 and looked at all the settings for the credit crawl. You set it up exactly as I suggested in that "tutorial" I posted here three years ago. (Credit Roll (Title Scroll): Getting it to Work

I then rendered it out to Sony MP4 using the following settings:



For this render, I turned off all GPU assist.

Here is a link to that MP4 file:

Title Crawl (MP4 version)

Right-click and "Save As" to download this file.

I put the resulting MP4 file into VLC Player (v1.1.11) and played it. Because it is 25 fps progressive, it looks a little juddery, but very consistent, with no hint of "jumps."

I then put the MP4 file back on the Vegas 10 timeline, on a track directly under your text generator, and did an A/B comparison between the two.

This was very interesting.

What I found is that thickness of the text was reduced significantly in the MP4 version.

I checked my preview settings, and it was set to Best-Full. In the preview window, both the Simulate Device Aspect Ratio, and also Scale Video to Fit preferences were turned off. I played around with these settings, but even with those two both enabled, I got the same result: everything played smoothly.

I then zoomed way into the text, using pan/crop, and copied that same pan crop back to the original text generator. I was going to post a screen grab, but it was tough to illustrate the difference. The levels, according to the scopes, are the same, but the MP4 render appears darker and thinner. I think it has something to do with how the edges are aliased.

My final step was to upload it to YouTube. Here is that upload:



When I played this (I set the YouTube quality to 720p), it was jerky, no matter how I adjusted the settings on my computer. I played it on another computer and got the same results. I then put the YouTube browser in windowed mode, and put the VLC player along side, and then played both the uploaded version and the local MP4 version at the same time. The VLC was smooth, and the YouTube version was not.

My conclusion? I think the problems are, once again, YouTube. I have a 12 mbps connection, but over the past year I have noticed a steady deterioration in the ability to get smooth playback on Flash videos, especially from the YouTube site. Although I generally don't like to upgrade software, I have upgraded Flash to the latest versions, and it doesn't help.

I get fantastic, perfect playback of Netflix and YouTube video from my son's Xbox, hard-wired to my Internet connection via an 8-port switch, so I'm 100% certain my Internet service is not the problem.

I have heard that Chrome interacts with YouTube differently, and at some point I need to try that out. I am using FireFox 28 with Flash 14. The Firefox build is from this spring, and I haven't upgraded that yet because of quite a few problem reports with all builds after this one. The Flash player is definitely the latest.

So, I think your title crawl is as good as you can get with this tool, and it seems to produce the correct result. The problem -- as you know better than anyone else in this forum -- comes from yet another issue related to how YouTube deals with our videos.

It would be interesting to hear what other people report.

I hope this helps!

I tried Legacy Text and used Positional.

I even tried making a LONG PNG plate, and used Pan/Crop to roll upwards.

But as John says, I think it is down to YT. If you want rolls, then it's rolls. But maybe Plates instead?

Grazie