OT - Venting my frustration with VP9.0

Cliff Etzel wrote on 12/11/2009, 7:20 AM

I'm about ready to throw Vegas out the Window!

Editing my winery project has become a discourse in trying my patience.

I've had to restart VP9 64 bit a dozen times this morning because clips all of a sudden either go red frame or black frame. Restarting VP9 fixes the issue for a short time then the red/black frames return - talk about loss in productivity!

All clips are converted to Cineform Neo Scene 1.3.6 build 121 AVI's.

I'm thoroughly frustrated and have just about given up on SONY ever fixing Vegas. As much as I love working with it - the loss in productivity for me is costing me time - which equals $$$

Sorry for the vent - it's been a frustrating editing experience so far. Maybe someone has an idea of what I can do to resolve this...

Cliff Etzel
Videographer : Producer : Web Designer
bluprojekt

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farss wrote on 12/13/2009, 1:01 AM

I can't check what you're saying in it's entirety (PC uploading) but yes, I see Vegas.exe using around 350MB of RAM. I also see 1.8GB of RAM being used according to system performance. Question, what ate the other 1.5GB of RAM??
Now while Vegas is doing this I try to run SF10 and it's pretty tardy loading and when I exit that getting back to Vegas and working again is very slow. Probably XP is having to ask Vegas for some RAM back or some such.
All just speculation though, sorry but all I can really offer is my sympathy, I'm having as much fun with V9 as you, the only problem I haven't had yet is with external monitoring, that at least is holding up OK.
I did think my troubles in part stemmed from having HDV and XDCAM EX on the T/L but from the problems you're having it would seem not so.

Bob.

Grazie wrote on 12/13/2009, 1:12 AM

I'm on SKYPE. - g

NickHope wrote on 12/13/2009, 6:34 PM

Cliff, I'm capturing HDV with HDVsplit and editing in native .m2t in Vegas 8.0c. It's really extremely stable and responsive. Every now and then I get a file that hangs Vegas but then I just run that file through MPEG2REPAIR and 9 times out of 10 it's fine afterwards.

No red frames. No crashes.

I trialled 9.0a and it was also OK for me, but as an HDV user there weren't sufficient new features to justify the upgrade. I also noticed that previewing was less responsive than 8.0c.

I really don't think you need to go buying 8GB of RAM.

I'm on XP by the way.

Why don't you give my workflow a try before you dump Vegas? I believe it's currently the best/simplest setup/workflow available anywhere for working with HDV.

JJKizak wrote on 12/14/2009, 4:17 AM

Memory is so cheap right now they are practically giving it away.
JJK

Cliff Etzel wrote on 12/14/2009, 7:52 AM

Cliff Etzel wrote on 12/14/2009, 7:12 PM

Well, after more research, private emails with those who have moved away from Vegas, and given the nature of what I shoot and how I market my services, Vegas STILL is the best option per $ value.

So an 8GB memory upgrade is ordered from NewEgg and on it's way. I'm thinking once it arrives, a restore of a default install of Win 7 Pro x64 is in order and a reinstall of my apps to make sure everything is as clean as possible.

Thanks to all who participated in this discussion thread - it helped me to refine what it is I need and want since I'm a shooter first and edit out of necessity.

Cliff Etzel
Videographer : Producer : Web Designer
bluprojekt
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Desktop: OS: Win7 x64 | CPU: Q6600 | Mobo: Intel DG33TL | 4GB Corsair Dual Channel RAM (Soon to be 8GB) | Boot/Apps Drive: Seagate 160GB 7200RPM | Audio Drive: Seagate 160GB 7200RPM | Video Drive: WD 640 7200RPM Black Series | Vid Card: nVidia GT7200LE

Laptop: Dell Latitude D620 | C2D 2.0Ghz | 4GB RAM | OS: Win7 x64 | Primary HD: WD 320GB 7200RPM | Video HD: WD 250GB 7200RPM

LReavis wrote on 12/15/2009, 11:14 AM

"I trialled 9.0a and it was also OK for me, but as an HDV user there weren't sufficient new features to justify the upgrade."

Yes, but I have found that 9C will render huge complex projects that choke 8C - and 9a & b. That's why I edit in 8c but render in 9c. This combo has been rock solid for my light work in Vegas ever since 9C & Win 7 64.

---Win 7 64, 8GB RAM.

vtxrocketeer wrote on 12/15/2009, 12:27 PM

Cliff, FWIW, I'm running 8GB of that exact G.Skill memory in my editing computer. Haven't had a single problem in over a year since building the computer. Great stuff. Mildly overclockable, too.

$0.02,
Steve

Cliff Etzel wrote on 12/15/2009, 12:39 PM