Pro Res Raw issue on Vegas Pro 20

Angelo-Angeralides wrote on 2/25/2023, 3:54 PM

I just bought Vegas Pro 20 in order to edit in Pro Res Raw.
I use Nikon Z6 II with Ninja V and when I try to drop the files in Vegas, it won't even take it/accept it.

It seems to be a codec issue, and I was surprised to find out that Vegas pro 20 has that issue when Magix put on their site that it is compatible with that codec, (pro res raw).

Is there anything I should change inside Vegas in order to take that codec?
I already download it quicktime but did not help either.

Best Regards,

Angelo

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/25/2023, 5:05 PM

We're all still waiting for Apple approval...

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-20-prores-raw-only-showing-audio-on-timeline--136690/#ca854269

Angelo-Angeralides wrote on 2/25/2023, 5:47 PM

That was the only reason why I upgraded from Vegas 18 to 20.

Well in the meantime I'll have to shoot in H.265 10 bit on my Ninja V, ATMOS charges 99 dollars extra to use that codec. I wonder if that codec format works on Vegas 20 before I make that purchase.

fr0sty wrote on 2/25/2023, 7:54 PM

You'd be better off recording to ProRes (not ProRes RAW) in the Atomos until VEGAS officially supports it (which again, is up to Apple to get around to approving it). You'll get better quality, and it will edit smoother.

Angelo-Angeralides wrote on 2/26/2023, 4:22 PM

@fr0sty, thank you for that advice.

Right now I shoot MOV AVC on my Nikon without Ninja V and I think it's in 8 bit.

For post and color correction, is Pro Res 4:2:2 HQ better than MOV AVC? Because that is what I can choose if I want to shoot with the Ninja V.

fr0sty wrote on 2/26/2023, 8:48 PM

Yes, chances are your 8 bit footage is 4:2:0 YUV compression, 4:2:2 is much better for color grading and green screen purposes. Also, ProRes is 10 bit, and decodes faster, so you can edit more clips at once without proxies. It'll also have less compression artifacts, but expect some larger files.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/27/2023, 11:04 AM

After exhaustive testing, the only advantage I found with ProRes 422 is that it's easier to edit thanks to simplified compression that does not require a gpu to decode. Downside is it requires larger recording media with performance capable of keeping up with the higher bitrate coming out of the camera. With the NinjaV, I find SanDisk Ultra3 sata ssd records ProRes economically in sizes up to 2TB. The highest quality hdmi cable is also required. Larger or lesser quality ssds tend to drop frames as do typical quality hdmi cables.

Angelo-Angeralides wrote on 2/27/2023, 6:48 PM

@Howard-Vigorita @fr0sty Today was my first time I shot with Pro-Res 4:2:2 HQ.

Like you said, the files were laaaarge but it was worth it! I'm not an expert in color grading but I was chocked to see how much details and that dynamic range when playing with the colors, shadows and highlights!

I use Andycine adapter with Samsung SSD 1TB which is good enough 👍

Usually I shoot long wedding parties and I will not use Pro-Res because of the size, but for commercials would work really great.

Here is a sample from what I shot today :-)

Thanks for your advices 🙏

fr0sty wrote on 2/27/2023, 6:54 PM

ProRes RAW is even bigger than that, so you'd only want to use it for certain projects as well once VEGAS gets that Apple certification sorted.

Glad it helped!