Proxy workflow in Vegas

xberk wrote on 11/27/2016, 11:47 AM

If playback is an issue -- does a Proxy workflow in V14 solve it?  I never liked using the Vegas Proxy files as they are larger than the originals and time consuming to prepare.  I think the newest version of Edius allows you to select the size of your proxy files.  In general, where is V14 at on Proxy file workflow compared to other NLEs? 

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3d87c4 wrote on 11/27/2016, 8:42 PM

I tried a proxy workflow with the original V14 release, using proxies from Handbrake, and was plagued by frequent crashes.  I got the video done, but am back to using V13 for now.  I haven't installed the latest update yet.  

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NickHope wrote on 11/27/2016, 10:14 PM

xberk, I updated this post with section 7, a brief summary of proxy-editing, since your comment on it. See also this recent thread. If I needed proxies in VP14 I would probably use Vegasaur.

Former user wrote on 11/28/2016, 8:33 AM

Remember, a proxy file can be any file. I have used SD DV files in a HD project as proxies. I use proxy files just to edit the content. Just do the effx on the originals after edit.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/28/2016, 10:30 AM

If playback is an issue -- does a Proxy workflow in V14 solve it?  I never liked using the Vegas Proxy files as they are larger than the originals and time consuming to prepare.  I think the newest version of Edius allows you to select the size of your proxy files.  In general, where is V14 at on Proxy file workflow compared to other NLEs? 


Vegas will create proxys with a fixed resolution I think. Must be something about 720p. So the good news are that this is nice for HD editing, for UHD editing it is not so great (because you loose with 4K the capability to assess the correct sharpness to some extend). But the proxys do their job - to improve preview capabilities and allow you to edit the footage. So from that side it is fine.

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NickHope wrote on 11/28/2016, 10:35 AM

The broken link I pasted above (which won't correctly link whatever I try) is actually very significant to this discussion. Copy and paste then add an "h" to the beginning: ttps://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/proxy-playback-please-fix--104635/

altarvic wrote on 11/28/2016, 10:47 AM

Nick, why complicate :) just post this link again:

http://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/proxy-playback-please-fix--104635/

Oops....  Now I see 😂 (forum bug?)

 

NickHope wrote on 11/28/2016, 10:48 AM

Nick, why complicate :) just post this link again

Because it sends me to https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/

NickHope wrote on 11/28/2016, 10:49 AM

Or is that just me? I have reported it.

altarvic wrote on 11/28/2016, 10:52 AM

Okay, another try: https://goo.gl/Wi0CXV

xberk wrote on 11/28/2016, 11:21 AM

Okay, another try: https://goo.gl/Wi0CXV


That's a weird looking link but it works.  How'd you do that? 

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xberk wrote on 11/28/2016, 1:02 PM

https://goo.gl/


Handy tool.  Just a bit confusing when someone sees the link. 

Meanwhile, back on topic -- Thanks Nick for the other thread. I'm still foggy on using proxy files but seems that Vegas does not have the best tool for doing this vs Vegasaur and others.   When I get time I'll experiment with using Handbrake for this.

Paul B .. PCI Express Video Card: EVGA VCX 10G-P5-3885-KL GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA ,,  Intel Core i9-11900K Desktop Processor ,,  MSI Z590-A PRO Desktop Motherboard LGA-1200 ,, 64GB (2X32GB) XPG GAMMIX D45 DDR4 3200MHz 288-Pin SDRAM PC4-25600 Memory .. Seasonic Power Supply SSR-1000FX Focus Plus 1000W ,, Arctic Liquid Freezer II – 360MM .. Fractal Design case ,, Samsung Solid State Drive MZ-V8P1T0B/AM 980 PRO 1TB PCI Express 4 NVMe M.2 ,, Wundiws 10 .. Vegas Pro 19 Edit

richardbushell wrote on 11/28/2016, 5:24 PM

@altarvic has just produced some incredible new Vegas scripts to allow for the perfect Proxy Workflow in Vegas. They are now available at the bottom of the other link mentioned previously, here:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/proxy-playback-please-fix--104635/

(don't know why inter-post links don't work properly in this forum, so just copy the link, then paste it manually into a new tab on your browser - don't just click on it)

altarvic wrote on 12/1/2016, 4:50 PM

FYI, Vegas proxies are not displayed in Draft/Preview modes if I play a subclip on the timeline. Subclip was created from a media file with existing .sfvp0 file