hi there, I just downloaded build 361 for veg pro 15, but the playback is still choppy/off time. I just got a new computer that's crazy fast so I wouldn't have this issue but still can't edit as fast as I need to. would I get better monitor playback if I upgraded to Pro 15 suite? or is that version too big/clunky? i'm hoping not.
"I just got a new computer that's crazy fast..."
Is that crazy fast computer a Z80, a 286 or a Pentium 4? Superlatives don't work here when discussing hardware.
To answer one of your questions: Don't buy the suite for better performance. Buy it if you need all the functionality.
it's an HP Zbook 17 4G, w Intel Xeon CPU E3-1535M v6 @ 3.10GHZ processor, 32gb ram. so no versions of veg 15 will actually play back in real time?
I’m getting too old for this.
What are you trying to preview in real time?
everything. hevc .265, 4k 60p, etc. i've created proxies which helps a bit but still it's just not exact so i still have to render to be sure the edits match the beats and transitions. no worries, just a little disappointed in software
so no versions of veg 15 will actually play back in real time?
Vegas is a non-linear editor, not a video player. The more processing you ask it to do, the more work it has to do, and the more time it requires to do so (and whenever it uses third-part OFX plug-ins, it has no control over how much work they do and how much time they need to do it). To see anything in real time, you would generally need to render to a video file, then play that in a video player (such as the popular VLC).
yeah thanks that's what i've been doing. was hoping not to keep doing that step.
It also has a lot to do with the format of the video you are editing. If you render to something like XAVC-I or use proxies (and also make sure that you have the quality set to preview, not good or best), you can get real time most of the time on most modern systems.
thank you much for all the input. i've been doing all of the above, both my systems are fast (i won't bother with all the specs ) / brand new... i was just hoping the recent rebuild would improve the monitor playback to speed up production time. i'll guess i'll just watch for future rebuilds and see if there's more software acceleration
To answer one of your questions: Don't buy the suite for better performance. Buy it if you need all the functionality.
Vegas Pro Edit 15 is the one to go with IMO...
He is already using VP15 latest build and he is not getting smooth or real time play back. He needs a better computer then the one he got. but he think he already got a crazy fast computer. I am speedless.
it's an HP Zbook 17 4G, w Intel Xeon CPU E3-1535M v6 @ 3.10GHZ processor, 32gb ram. so no versions of veg 15 will actually play back in real time?
Here's the thing... some codecs just aren't meant for editing no matter what the spin doctoring ad wizards for ANY of the NLE companies spouts. Use a common codec, keep things simple and you'll find your editing experience will improve. Your laptop specs look good. I'd say the bottle neck might be what hard drive/connection you're editing off of. I found the bottle neck for me is the eSata connection to my 2x1tb mini raid 0 using spinning HD's. I plan on moving to an internal SSD for current project assets shortly.
I'm not saying that's your case - just saying that there are other factors to consider before blaming Vegas itself. I recently jumped ship from Adobe and relieved I did. Hostageware payments every month is basically a Ponzi scheme IMO. MAGIX is finally getting things sorted out for Vegas Pro since acquiring it and I'm betting version 16 when it's released will provide more tweaks and better hardware support. My thought is MAGIX doesn't have the sheer number of manpower resources like Adobe, Apple or AVID so they're doing their best and this latest version shows that - if it weren't for this release finally getting things right for me, I'd still be editing on Premiere Pro CS6 (blech!) - thankfully I no longer have to and my new Dell 12" ultrabook's Intel GPU is fully utilized by Vegas 15 for when I'm editing on the road and using my ipad as a second monitor attached via duet display. Vegas is fast on this little machine! (specs for this full setup in my profile)
I have been editing native hecv 4K file from Samsung camera on a 5 yrs old 4930K 6 cores running @4.5ghz.
it's an HP Zbook 17 4G, w Intel Xeon CPU E3-1535M v6 @ 3.10GHZ processor, 32gb ram. so no versions of veg 15 will actually play back in real time?
Upload a sample 10s clip. More than happy to test them out for you.
bruce usa, i also have an intel core i7-8700k @ 3.7 . on both of my systems, both veg 15 pro and pro suite are clunky. i make proxies, i do everything to made editing faster but it's still not like when sony made it. i'm sorry i said anything, thanks for trying to help with the feedback. all i can do is look forward to vegas 16 being better. and thanks cliff, yeah i don't like premiere pro's set up. i like the design of vegas, these versions are just clunky.
Something is wrong with the media you're editing, then... As the rest of us are enjoying speed improvements that blow away the old versions. Even 14 is slower.
nope not that. all different kinds of media. i bought 14 too, it's about the same. but no 4k render so 14 renders itself useless to me. anyways, i've tried 2 computers, all kinds of media, bought edit pro and suite. troubleshooted a bunch before even considering this forum. i think i just need to lower my expectations until 16 arrives.
Just to prove my point, this is a 5 camera, all 4K resolution edit with levels adjustments, color curves, and color correctors applied at various points on the event, media, tracks, and master fx levels.
System: Ryzen 7 1800x (No OC), Nvidia GTX 970, 64GB DDR4 3000mhz Win10
Project: Outsider's Ball Feat. Phil Lesh (Grateful Dead, not featured in this particular song.) & the Terrapin Family Band, Ivan Neville (Dumpstaphunk), Chris Spies, George Porter Jr. (The Meters), Marcus King (Marcus King Band). November 2017, Mobile, AL
Project Specs: 3 Panasonic GH4s, 1 GH5, 1 GoPro Hero 3 all 23.976fps 4K
I would have never seen this performance and stability on this project from previous versions of Vegas.
(The volume drop in the middle is from me getting a phone call while recording this video in OBS)
thanks but it's not really my issue. the clunkyness is when i click edit back and forth and move things fast, i usually have to wait a moment or two before playing again or its off. and it's tough to tell the exact cut i need until i render. just straight playback like what you're showing, it plays ok. i edit fast, that's where i'm hoping it can be faster.
Sounds like drive or so4 issue.
Have you checked your drive speed (where your project's media stored)?
Have you tried to disable so4compoundplug.dll?
We don't know what media you are editing, so we can't help you much until we know more about what your project, media, and system layout is. We have the system part, we need the rest now. Post what your project settings are, as well as what type of media you are using, and we can use that to make suggestions on how to better tune Vegas.
There were also some RAM changes made in internal settings somewhere in this forum that people were reporting success with for faster playback response. Maybe someone knows what thread that was posted in? Nick?
Some types of media decode slowly, so if you are skipping around rapidly, it doesn't matter what editing app or computer you are using, it is going to get choppy. The proxies should have fixed that, so then the next culprit goes on to hard drive speed.
I film and edit recap videos for many of the biggest concerts and music festivals out there, and as such I am cutting video to beats regularly. I never have issues with it, so perhaps there are some workflow changes that can be made to help you along. I'd like to see you cutting this media in earlier versions of Vegas without the lag, and where the lag is manifesting in this version. Download OBS Studio and record screen capture videos of you editing, and we can go from there to make suggestions.
@fr0sty, that's looking really good! I am very curious to know what sort of playback performance you can get when in the multicam edit mode (CTRL+Shift+D). Thanks in advance.
It isn't as good, I use proxies if I'm going to do multicam mode. This video was cut in that mode, actually, I just disabled it so I could have fullscreen playback, since you can't see my full screen output on the other monitor.
@fr0sty, thank you for your reply. Understood how it was done to get the full screen playback performance. I too probably should start using proxies but, alas, it takes a long time to create proxies out of, say, 4K footage of 5 different cameras, doesn't it?
I rendered out those proxies in a few hours. Not long in comparison to the days I'll spend cutting, color correcting, color grading, noise reducing, rendering, etc., and since editing without the proxies brings my system to a crawl in multicam mode, and since multicam mode enables me to get my rough cut done far faster, it's worth it to me.
The first set and the first few songs of the second I actually cut without proxies, using the old fashioned way of just cutting it on the timeline. It was tedious, but the only way I could pull it off without proxies. Playback performance is way better with timeline editing than multicam. The GoPro still played back at a snail's pace no matter what, though. Not so with proxy.