No such format as MAGIX Mainconcept HEVC, which are you referring to?

There is also no AVC encoder choice. You either can use AMD VCE or Intel QSV

And by the best drivers you mean the GPU drivers? The latest GPU driver may not be the best?

Help!!

Not that menu. The dropdown list in the Magix Render Templates give you the option to choose the hardware GPU or the software CPU encoders. If the option to use the software Mainconcept encoder does not show up in your version of Vegas, you will need to use one of the Magix AVC/AAC Render Templates.

For the rest of your questions, feel free to use the handy Forum Search feature here. Those results will give far better answers than asking questions that have already been addressed, thank you.

@huskereurocat, I just rendered a short part of my video to HEVC. I used the same settings in VP21 and VP18.

The first screenshot is the performance of VP21. The second of VP18. The video files were UHD 4K 50P with Vegas title and an image that has pan and zoom from Pan/Crop. The third is the rendering settings used.

@huskereurocat If you want more gpu usage and are already rendering vce, the next big thing to look at is decoding. MediaInfo on your camera footage would be helpful. And a screenshot of your Vegas I/O preferences. Decoding is influenced by the media formats supported by your gpu and the settings in Vegas I/O Preferences.

@huskereurocat If you want more gpu usage and are already rendering vce, the next big thing to look at is decoding. MediaInfo on your camera footage would be helpful. And a screenshot of your Vegas I/O preferences. Decoding is influenced by the media formats supported by your gpu and the settings in Vegas I/O Preferences.

Here is the Preference Info

And the media information from the source video. It is an OBS recording of my gameplay in Madden 24.

Does this help?

Just as an FYI, I went in and changed the Hardware Decoder to use: from Auto to AMD UVD/VCN and now my CPU is in the mid 70's and the GPU is now in the mid 20's. Seems to have made a difference. 🙂

@huskereurocat, I just rendered a short part of my video to HEVC. I used the same settings in VP21 and VP18.

The first screenshot is the performance of VP21. The second of VP18. The video files were UHD 4K 50P with Vegas title and an image that has pan and zoom from Pan/Crop. The third is the rendering settings used.

 

My footage is recorded off my PC via OBS, so its only 1920x1080 at 60fps. I render as 1440p in order to get a better resolution when You Tube processes my video and have been doing that for a couple of years now. Thanks for the rendering settings for HEVC, I'll give them a go!

@huskereurocat I have no OBS footage. If you can provide a short sample to the cloud, I would be glad to test it and report back.

@huskereurocat I have no OBS footage. If you can provide a short sample to the cloud, I would be glad to test it and report back.

Short sample uploaded to mediafire.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/pewbp9amn53t0ci/2023-11-08+13-59-48.mp4/file

Just an FYI, I used the HEVC format with the following customized template and it seems to work alright. If you have further input as to whether those are the opimized settings, that would be great.

@Reyfox

@huskereurocat These OBS settings work well for me.

Suggest you try 29.97 fps if you can get away with it. If the video being captured has high motion that blurs or streaks, try setting the Vegas project property to Best and raising the OBS bitrate before resorting to a double frame rate which is harder for Vegas. Capturing hevc in OBS can be even better with motion if your hardware can handle it.

@Howard-Vigorita  Since I only have a 1920x1080 60hz monitor, I can't record with your base canvas settings. Would that matter?

Vegas project property is set to Best, but the reason I render at 1440 is that if I render at my native 1080p then You Tube looks at that and gives it the thumbs down at processing via the same architecture as a 1440p video. It's the only way that I know of to get You Tube to process at a better frame rate, unless I get a new monitor and I can't swing that now.

Problem with capturing HEVC in OBS with my rig is that I seem to get stuttering in my recordings if I do that. 😒

Well, I just tried recording in OBS with HEVC and dropping the bitrate down as to put less strain on my hardware and I got what I was fearing, a stuttering mess. I had thougt with the upgrade to an R7 5800x and RX6700XT that my hardware would be able to handle the load, but it would seem not. Thanks for the suggestion though.

You want to encode to fragmented MP4, and keyframe interval to 1, and ofcourse AVC. Vegas can't read fragmented MP4 so you have auto remux turned on to create conventional mp4 which you use in Vegas. You don't want to use MKV because the remux to mp4 creates variable frame rate, you don't want to encode direct to mp4 because unlike mkv or fragmented mp4, conventional mp4 has a good chance of corrupting due to a software or hardware failure.

@huskereurocat, thanks for the file. I used Vegas Post 21 and VP18 using the same render settings to get your 1440P HEVC video. What I did notice is that VP18 only utilized 19-20% GPU and 80-upper 90% CPU. See first screen shot.

The second screenshot is of VP21 with the same render settings. A marked improvement in GPU usage. Rendering was also faster, and the file size was about 1/2 that of VP18!

You want to encode to fragmented MP4, and keyframe interval to 1, and ofcourse AVC. Vegas can't read fragmented MP4 so you have auto remux turned on to create conventional mp4 which you use in Vegas. You don't want to use MKV because the remux to mp4 creates variable frame rate, you don't want to encode direct to mp4 because unlike mkv or fragmented mp4, conventional mp4 has a good chance of corrupting due to a software or hardware failure.

@Former user So instead of OBS remuxing a MKV file it needs to remux the fragmented MP4 to conventional MP4? I have it on auto remux, but I didn't know it would auto remux a fragmented MP4 to Conventional MP4. I thought that was just for MKV remuxing.

So this is how it should be set up? With the auto remuxing on, of course.

@huskereurocat, thanks for the file. I used Vegas Post 21 and VP18 using the same render settings to get your 1440P HEVC video. What I did notice is that VP18 only utilized 19-20% GPU and 80-upper 90% CPU. See first screen shot.

The second screenshot is of VP21 with the same render settings. A marked improvement in GPU usage. Rendering was also faster, and the file size was about 1/2 that of VP18!

@Reyfox  So, you're saying that I need to upgrade if I want better GPU usage? Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen any time soon. I might have to wait for the next version of VP to come out. Then the current version may be affordable for me. 😏

Thank you soooooo much for testing it out on your system!!

 

So this is how it should be set up? With the auto remuxing on, of course.

Yeah that looks good, you'll get a CFR after the remux to regular mp4 that may increase your encoding speed, the keyframe interval set to 1 will help with playback and scrubbing the timeline

 

So this is how it should be set up? With the auto remuxing on, of course.

Yeah that looks good, you'll get a CFR after the remux to regular mp4 that may increase your encoding speed, the keyframe interval set to 1 will help with playback and scrubbing the timeline

@Former user Forgive my ignorance, but CFR stands for? And do you know how it may increase encoding speed?

@huskereurocat what you can do is download the trial version of VP21. Drop the same clip on the timeline that you put in the cloud, and render it out and see for yourself. Also notice the average speed of the render. In VP18, 140fps, in VP21 159fps.with the same hardware.

Again, the best way to see how things perform on your computer is to download the trial version of VP21, drop that clip in it and render it out.

That would be the best test scenario for you to know for yourself.

You want to encode to fragmented MP4, and keyframe interval to 1, and ofcourse AVC. Vegas can't read fragmented MP4 so you have auto remux turned on to create conventional mp4 which you use in Vegas. You don't want to use MKV because the remux to mp4 creates variable frame rate, you don't want to encode direct to mp4 because unlike mkv or fragmented mp4, conventional mp4 has a good chance of corrupting due to a software or hardware failure.

I used this method, recorded two games the last two days and it worked beautifully. However, today I'm back to stuttering recordings. No upgrades, no downloads of any software, just a new day. I just can't seem to win with this. Any suggestions?

@Former user

I"m not sure what the problem would be, Vegas's GPU decoder is more likely to cause poor playback with longer GOP's but Vegas should like the video OBS is creating. You could try ticking legacy AVC decoder, that will improve playback lag with some AVC encodes that the GPU decoder doesn't like

Can you double check the media isn't the problem? I assume the media that worked fine a few days ago works fine today. Is that right?

That media from a couple of days ago is just fine. Just played it back in VLC. The media (mp4 from OBS today) is the problem. Not saying that it doesn't work in VP, but the issue is that I can't get a clean, un-stuttering recording out of OBS for some reason. Yes, I know that isn't the purpose of this community, but I need to try to get an answer from whatever source will help me. 😏 Just real frustrated at this point.

@RogerS