StillMotion Video Contest
Spot|DSE
wrote on 9/20/2005, 12:02 PM
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Former user
wrote on 9/20/2005, 1:38 PM
A limit of 750K for a 30 second spot?
What compression / frame size are you guys using to get decent A/V that results in a file that small?
Jim
What compression / frame size are you guys using to get decent A/V that results in a file that small?
Jim
Liam_Vegas
wrote on 9/20/2005, 2:04 PM
For constant bit-rate video stream... it is a simple equation.
File size (Kbytes) / duration (seconds) * 8 (bits per byte)
750 / 30 * 8 = 200 Kilo Bits Per Second.
So... set your bit-rate for your WMV "render" at no more than 200kbps.
File size (Kbytes) / duration (seconds) * 8 (bits per byte)
750 / 30 * 8 = 200 Kilo Bits Per Second.
So... set your bit-rate for your WMV "render" at no more than 200kbps.
Former user
wrote on 9/20/2005, 3:10 PM
Well, it wasn't a question of how to make a small WMV file, that's no problem -- I was just wondering how to get a DECENT looking video stream at such a low data rate...
When I make "still motion" commercials, I have to render at 1Meg to keep from getting a really noisy video stream and at 320x240 that results in a file around 3.5 megs...
When I make "still motion" commercials, I have to render at 1Meg to keep from getting a really noisy video stream and at 320x240 that results in a file around 3.5 megs...
Spot|DSE
wrote on 9/20/2005, 10:55 PM
Jim,
The point (which could likely be better said on our part) would be that the vid doesn't HAVE to be 30 seconds. Make it shorter if you wish, at a higher bitrate, but at 200kpbs, it should likely look pretty decent.
The point (which could likely be better said on our part) would be that the vid doesn't HAVE to be 30 seconds. Make it shorter if you wish, at a higher bitrate, but at 200kpbs, it should likely look pretty decent.
jimingo
wrote on 9/21/2005, 10:21 PM
I see that you can use generated media. Are you allowed to keyframe generated media so that it creates motion? I'm assuming you can but just making sure.
Spot|DSE
wrote on 9/22/2005, 6:37 AM
Certainly.
garo
wrote on 9/26/2005, 2:18 AM
on the contest entry page it states that you can visit the contest page at anytime to view the standings but I don't see the link to the actual contest but I did send in an entry ..
"Wild Strawberries"
//Gar
"Wild Strawberries"
//Gar
FuTz
wrote on 9/26/2005, 1:47 PM
Can I use 30 stills per second ?
: P ¦ D
=> out !
: P ¦ D
=> out !
Chienworks
wrote on 9/26/2005, 2:03 PM
From http://www.vasst.com/?v=stillmotion_contest.htm ...
"You can use stills, you can use graphics from your graphic editor. You can use generated media from the application, but at no point may you use sequential stills that would constitute a video clip."
So i think the answer would probably be no if they are squential stills from some sort of movement, but yes if they are unrelated stills.
"You can use stills, you can use graphics from your graphic editor. You can use generated media from the application, but at no point may you use sequential stills that would constitute a video clip."
So i think the answer would probably be no if they are squential stills from some sort of movement, but yes if they are unrelated stills.
Spot|DSE
wrote on 9/26/2005, 6:03 PM
Good call, Kelly. That's the rule exactly. The rule is mentioned that way so someone doesn't just take a piece of video that's cool, turn it into images, and then reassemble the same vid using those images.
We've had two entries already, some guys just work really fast!
Hope to see more. I kinda suspect we'll see some "Kid in the Picture" sorts of stuff, hoping to, anyway. Might be just the right time to win a Cybershot in time for Christmas, eh? :-)
We've had two entries already, some guys just work really fast!
Hope to see more. I kinda suspect we'll see some "Kid in the Picture" sorts of stuff, hoping to, anyway. Might be just the right time to win a Cybershot in time for Christmas, eh? :-)
TheHappyFriar
wrote on 9/26/2005, 6:06 PM
what's "kid in the picture"?
rs170a
wrote on 9/26/2005, 6:19 PM
FuTz
wrote on 9/26/2005, 7:52 PM
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oobs... next time I read before tryin a (flat) joke...
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FuTz
wrote on 9/26/2005, 7:57 PM
"Kid stays..." :
A good tutorial (to make with AE but gives good pointers), written in 2003 but still relevant is on DV.Com site and you'd probably have to register (not very long to do). Then search for "Moving Pictures: Creating Multiplane Animation from Photographs" by Jun Diaz.
A good tutorial (to make with AE but gives good pointers), written in 2003 but still relevant is on DV.Com site and you'd probably have to register (not very long to do). Then search for "Moving Pictures: Creating Multiplane Animation from Photographs" by Jun Diaz.
garo
wrote on 9/27/2005, 10:26 PM
Aren't the current submissions supposed to be viewd and voted upon? They don't seem to as of now.
//Gar
//Gar
AlanC
wrote on 9/28/2005, 1:47 AM
The sub-header on the VASST site states:
"Three winners will be selected by your votes. Cast up to three votes beginning October 10. Submit up to two entries by October 9."
I don't think you can view the entries until 10th October.
"Three winners will be selected by your votes. Cast up to three votes beginning October 10. Submit up to two entries by October 9."
I don't think you can view the entries until 10th October.
VOGuy
wrote on 9/28/2005, 9:55 AM
Like the previous contest, I'm happy to provide voice-over services for your contest entry, FREE!
Samples of my work over still images can be viewed at: www.Narrate.biz .
Send me your script, along with whatever direction, and I'll send back an .mp3/.wav.
--
This offer subject to restrictions. If I don't feel right for some reason (like it's just too distaseful, or something) about your project I reserve the right not to do it. (I don't expect this to happen.)
Use of the free voice-over limited to entries in the VASST still motion contest.
-Travis
www.Announcing.biz
www.Announcing.biz
Samples of my work over still images can be viewed at: www.Narrate.biz .
Send me your script, along with whatever direction, and I'll send back an .mp3/.wav.
--
This offer subject to restrictions. If I don't feel right for some reason (like it's just too distaseful, or something) about your project I reserve the right not to do it. (I don't expect this to happen.)
Use of the free voice-over limited to entries in the VASST still motion contest.
-Travis
www.Announcing.biz
www.Announcing.biz
Spot|DSE
wrote on 9/29/2005, 7:50 PM
Very cool offer, Travis.
And for those that have submitted, my apologies. We implemented a new voting system that is in line with what folks here asked for (voting after the contest is over), and somehow I screwed up the way the files were being linked.
That's all fixed now; there are a couple of entries in there already, both have some very nice bits in them.
Hope y'all can have fun with it! FWIW, you can submit them on your own.
If Travis is making such a generous offer again, might be a good way to "power up" those stills. Can't wait to see some of the entries!
And for those that have submitted, my apologies. We implemented a new voting system that is in line with what folks here asked for (voting after the contest is over), and somehow I screwed up the way the files were being linked.
That's all fixed now; there are a couple of entries in there already, both have some very nice bits in them.
Hope y'all can have fun with it! FWIW, you can submit them on your own.
If Travis is making such a generous offer again, might be a good way to "power up" those stills. Can't wait to see some of the entries!
Spot|DSE
wrote on 9/29/2005, 7:51 PM
They're viewable now, Gerrie. Sorry that we had them for a few days without them being visible.
FuTz
wrote on 10/1/2005, 9:31 AM
Two more questions (more seriously this time):
-any limit for number of entries ?
-Would a timelapse made out of stills from a digital camera at a rate of 1 pic every 30 seconds be allowed ? Got a few of those and was minding if I could use 'em... Did it with a Canon G2 still camera. This would be used more as a backdrop than the subject itself. Could easily provide the VEGgie if requested. God, it took me a while to make each one of those... : /
Spot|DSE
wrote on 10/1/2005, 2:16 PM
Limited to 2 entries, and yes, your still cam images, so long as they are STILLS and not a quicktime or mjpeg file, would meet the requirements. There are already a few good un's up there!
fldave
wrote on 10/1/2005, 3:51 PM
And one more clarification, please.
I can take individual images from my HDV footage, save as an image file, and use them, pan and scan, as long as the scene is totally different. Correct? I would like to use some images, but my only source is on my FX1 capture.
Since the timelapse thing is ok, I would think that the source of the digital image is immaterial.
I can take individual images from my HDV footage, save as an image file, and use them, pan and scan, as long as the scene is totally different. Correct? I would like to use some images, but my only source is on my FX1 capture.
Since the timelapse thing is ok, I would think that the source of the digital image is immaterial.
winrockpost
wrote on 10/1/2005, 3:56 PM
After gong on Spots site and reading somewhat carefully ,seems to me i dont have to use Vegas. Can use AE or whatever..,, am I correct on that ? Cause wow what a difference (in my pea brain) in what can be achieved.
Steve Mann
wrote on 10/2/2005, 11:06 PM
FDave said: "Since the timelapse thing is ok, I would think that the source of the digital image is immaterial."
The rules state: "You can use stills, you can use graphics from your graphic editor. You can use generated media from the application, but at no point may you use sequential stills that would constitute a video clip."
Seems to me that this would preclude time-lapse.
DSE - Clarify, please
The rules state: "You can use stills, you can use graphics from your graphic editor. You can use generated media from the application, but at no point may you use sequential stills that would constitute a video clip."
Seems to me that this would preclude time-lapse.
DSE - Clarify, please