transient glitch viewing or rendering

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 4/3/2020, 6:08 PM

Get an annoying glitch during playback that comes and goes with Vegas v17. It occurs while transitioning between segmented clips that are adjacent to one another on the timeline. Kind of hard to capture because usually once I see it and replay that section... it's gone. But I got lucky when it just happened while I happened to be capturing my screen. Below is a snipit of the capture:

Btw, doesn't seem to happen when I'm doing short projects. In the project above, I was over an hour into the show when it first happened. What I usually do when I see this happen is to drop a marker at the troublesome transition. On the theory that it's a Vegas clip buffering issue. Because the glitch occasionally creeps into a render but playing over the troublesome transitions right before the render keeps it from spoiling... this has worked every time so far. Btw, doesn't matter what format I'm rendering to. Short mp4 or long intermediates. It's most annoying when it happens while doing multi-hour renders. Below is a snipit of a rendered mp4 clip with the glitch:

This happens to me on occasion on a variety of systems and seems to have started with v16 where it happened more often. In case it relates to my camera clip format, here's my mediainfo:

General
Complete name                            : D:\ccrtf2017\Sat 09-30-2017\#1_xf305\AA084102.MXF
Format                                   : MXF
Commercial name                          : XDCAM HD422
Format version                           : 1.2
Format profile                           : OP-1a
Format settings                          : Closed / Complete
File size                                : 1.91 GiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 13 s
Overall bit rate                         : 52.2 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : 2017-09-30 19:16:49.000
Writing application                      : CANON XF305 1.00Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Commercial name                          : XDCAM HD422
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : 4:2:2@High
Format settings                          : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
Format settings, picture structure       : Frame
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102046001-0401020201040300
Duration                                 : 5 min 13 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 50.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.805
Stream size                              : 1.83 GiB (96%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

If anyone has any suggestions on any Vegas config settings, internal or otherwise, I'd sure love to give it a try.

Comments

fr0sty wrote on 4/3/2020, 8:47 PM

Please also give us your system specs and project settings.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 4/3/2020, 10:26 PM

Systems specs are in my signature... I've seen it happen on all of them but I'm using the Intel NUC with 32gigs ram at the moment. Project matches the media:


Also, I unchecked the loop switch on all clips to no avail.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 4/7/2020, 10:23 AM

I'm wondering if the problem I experience has to do with my camera's 8-bit 4:2:2 color format which seems unusual since most of what I see about 4:2:2 relates to 10-bit. Maybe something off in my mxfplug3.dll?

I've been experimenting with different Vegas settings and noticed that increasing Dynamic Ram Preview to 2000 made it worse while lowering it to 0 made it happen less often. Also noticed it happens more often when preview is set to Best-Full and I haven't seen it happen yet at Preview-Auto... which isn't a sure kill for rendering which ramps preview up to Best or Good depending on my project setting.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/11/2021, 1:42 PM

I appear to have been remiss is posting my solution to this problem. See: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/voukoder-render-has-pixleated-frames-around-some-event-transitions--129720/#ca806494