UPDATE: VEGAS Pro 365 rendering has been crashing on me (second post)

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/25/2020, 7:29 PM

To whom it may concern (to a VEGAS Pro expert),

So here's the deal and I'll try my best to make things brief: I've been dealing with having to create my first-ever movie review for my new YouTube job (my subject matter being The Emoji Movie) since about a year ago as I had it all completed back in January but then had to wait for like a couple of months before I ordered myself a new expensive laptop online back in March to replace my old laptop since a Geek Squad employee from Best Buy had recommended me to buy a gaming laptop that's more advanced and having more space in it due to my previous issue involving my rendering being frozen (back when I had a Sony Vegas Pro 16 at the time). Another thing to keep in mind (without judging me about it) is that the running time for my movie review is (I'm not even joking here) over 5 hours long since I never done anything like this before when having to both plan out my script, record my video sessions, and edit all of my media resources for months as I'm a newbie to this and that estimating how long my own video should be was a bit difficult to me to figure it out and so that would be the reason why my file size was too large to get rendered but at least I was recommended by a few agents and especially @fr0sty to split up my whole movie review project into sections and render them piece by piece so that my rendering would work as well as making my movie review less controversial as it would've ended up becoming the world's longest YouTube movie review by default if not being told to break it all up into smaller parts.

So then after having to get my new laptop set up and ready, I had been dealing with a new bigger issue when I found out that my rendering has been crashing on me nonstop due to my movie review's file size being too large as I ended up having to spend over a month of contacting numerous tech support agents (as recommended by Best Buy) and remote controlling my laptop without getting anything resolved besides getting some answers to the source of my issue (especially being recommended to install a Sony Vegas Pro 17 from eBay to replace my previous version before being told that it was pirated unbeknownst to me at the time) and now I've been trying to get all of this resolved on here for two weeks now on my previous post (going into full specific details) when I had some answers from other users while a few others were making fun of me for having a "world record post" that nobody got to read through all of it but then, out of nowhere, this one moderator name @set blocked me from asking anymore questions after he closed down that post; possibly due to him being impatient despite still trying to answering a few questions for the users who were helping me out (whatever, he was a lost cause).

However, that still didn't stopped me from contacting this other moderator name @fr0sty by messaging him a bunch of questions from his profile for over a week now as well as giving me plenty of different suggestions to see what works and what doesn't. But unfortunately, after he gave me one last suggestion and then having to go back to ask him about his suggestion failing on me, he never responded back to me for two days 'til I decided to let him know that I had enough of him ignoring me and why he was doing that to me since we usually would reply back to each other every 5 or 10 hours and please keep in mind that I was being polite when expressing my concern to him about why he wasn't responding back to me and how come he could've just let me know if he has a second job or if he was busy with helping out someone else so that we could set up a time schedule to communicate with each other. But instead, he came off like a jerk to me and telling me that I'm just some whiny entitled kid (I'm 26 by the way) as well as saying that no one will be willing to watch a 5 hour long movie review on a terrible animated film (which it's the point of me reviewing bad movies anyways) and even reminding me to just follow his instruction and so I decided to reply back to him to let him know that I already took his advice but it failed as well as responding to his other rude comments before making my final point to him that I want him to at least answer my question about why his suggestion failed before we part from each other eventually since it was his idea in the first place but...he never responded back as of yesterday (no surprise there).

Anyways, now that I tried to summarize the overall of my tediously ongoing situation, I'm now currently having to deal with my new issue after taking @fr0sty's advice by changing both my project properties setting and my rendering setting after having to split up the first half of my movie review (which it's like an hour long) and especially having to try out one of the intermediate templates to see if it would make my rendering work this time. But instead of crashing on me whenever I get this "VEGAS Pro has stopped working" pop-up box every time, I ended up with these "occurred errors" and "application errors" every time I tried to re-test any other different rendering setting to find out which one works and so far none of them did. But what also made this worse for me is that when I decided to restart my laptop just to see if it'll work this time by refreshing my software, for some unknown reason I'm not able to open back up my movie review project or even just my Vegas Pro shortcut as I would end up with an "error code -59" as well as an error pop-up box telling me that I have no license and that doesn't make any sense whatsoever!?

So yeah, I now have to deal with this issue while @fr0sty just decided not to help me anymore about how to fix this mess that he got me into in the first time with this new issue from last night and so fortunately I always document everything I do with my rendering situation by taking screenshots for prove and context as I'll be sharing some of the more recent ones on here just to give you an idea of what my situation looks like right now before I could be able to provide you with anymore details once I get to answer anyone's questions first (especially having to follow anyone's instructions one person at a time so that it doesn't become overwhelming for me).

And so I have one last thing to say here and to make things clear for both @set and @fr0sty if they ever see this (which I doubt), I just want to say that you two are not welcome to give me any further answers since you guys obviously were just rude and don't seem to have any interest in helping me with my issue anymore and so don't even bother; that's all I got to say here.

By the way, if anyone is curious to know any specific details from my previous post (which keep in mind that it's extremely long to read through the whole thing) as I had described every past sessions with my previous tech support agents from those 5 tediously long weeks of getting all sorts of different recommendations, it can be found through my link here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/my-vegas-pro-17-rendering-has-been-crashing-on-me-nonstop--120692/

Anyways, please help me out with my issue here ASAP as I would greatly appreciate that and I can also allow anyone to just make a phone call to me if we ever end up in a situation where we might not be able to communicate via commenting/messaging on here (just a heads-up); thanks for understanding.

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P.S. I was told numerous times by others to just increase my RAM up to 16GB in order to support my rendering process from crashing again but since I would have to literally buy another stick of it online as I only have 8GB of RAM in my laptop, I decided that it would be best to just stick with splitting up my whole movie review into pieces so that it wouldn't take too long to render the whole thing itself as a better alternative in my case after making up my mind on that option. Also, just to remind myself to bring this up, the laptop that I'm using now is an ACER NITRO 5 with both a NVIDIA GeForce GTX and an Intel CORE i5 9th Generation built-in systems in it.

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Dr Zen wrote on 5/25/2020, 10:27 PM

I mean no disrespect.
Instead of waffling on and on and on................, what is the problem in a few short sentences ?
No one on the forum has the time to read a novel that has nothing to do with the actual problem.

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/26/2020, 10:03 AM

I mean no disrespect.
Instead of waffling on and on and on................, what is the problem in a few short sentences ?
No one on the forum has the time to read a novel that has nothing to do with the actual problem.

@Dr Zen First off, thanks for making it clear to me that you have no rude intentions; appreciated your honesty.

Second of all, I don't mind explaining my issue with you in short sentences (unless you already read everything on here and I don't need to repeat myself if you already got the big picture perhaps).

And third, to be honest with you, my new post here isn't exactly as extremely elaborated and tedious as my last post since that would be more like reading a novel while this post is kinda more like a full chapter by comparison and I don't expect anyone to read through my last post entirely since that's done and over with (just giving out a link of it to anyone who are curious enough to check it out if they want). But yeah, I do apologize if this post is not shorter enough as I tried my best but also, at the same time, didn't want to risk on leaving out any highlighted or vital details for my situation here (especially the fact that I'm new on here and that I've never done any forum posts before besides social media and college essays in my case); I'm not perfect.

So anyways, just to be sure, did you read everything on my post here or do you want me to just summarize my current issue for you if you didn't read through all of it (unless you can just read both paragraphs 4 & 5 as I already explained it from there)?

fr0sty wrote on 5/26/2020, 12:39 PM

This is an improvement, for sure, over the last post, but you still need to focus on how to say something in the fewest words possible. Here's how to approach that:

State your problem - No backstory necessary, just say what Vegas is or isn't doing.

Read the "Information Required to Help You" FAQ Post at the top of these forums and post the things it asks for. The mediainfo reports are going to be tricky in your case because you are using a ton of different types of media in your project, but at least post a mediainfo report of the video files used.

That's it! Just the problem and the info we ask for, a few sentences to describe your issue, and you're done with it far sooner than you otherwise would have, and we're done reading it and are starting to help you far sooner as well. If we need more info, we'll ask for it, no need to provide it all up front.

BTW, I'll give you answers if I want, this is a public forum and you cannot delete my posts (though I can delete yours... funny how that works, isn't it?) I could have banned you long ago for seeking help on this forum using a pirated copy of Vegas (he's gone legit to VP365 since, forum users), but I chose to work with you as best I could in Private Messages, until you got whiny and demanding about it because I had to work and couldn't respond to you within 24 hours of your request for help. We're all just a bunch of Vegas users here, we do not work for Magix or VCS and do not owe you a damn thing, so grow up, quit being so entitled and thinking we owe you something. We're helping you out of kindness, in our spare time. Don't forget that.

You are throwing an extremely long project at a system that isn't powerful enough to do it. You're going to have to take some workaround steps to make it work. Render it out in chunks to either Magix Intermediate or Magix AVC if that takes too long or requires too much disk space.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

frmax wrote on 5/26/2020, 1:17 PM

Please familiarize yourself with taking screenshots instead of using a camera to photograph the monitor.

This forum is not like your Vlog, it's more about technical aspects, not emotional descriptions.

Video editing is a challenging topic for a PC, the undersizing of your RAM is an essential fact that you have not changed.

Errors with "local bridge exe" are usually caused by Windows system, e.g. missing update of the NET framework, but also when the process demands too much of the hardware.

Your photos show a load of clips that suggest an overload of RAM.

My suggestion: First, take only a section of your planned work of maximum 5 minutes and check whether this can be done without crashes. Then you would at least have the chance to differentiate whether Vegas itself has a problem or just the hardware or its settings.

With this in mind, I wish you to be accepted into the 4-year private art college program in Minneapolis, because there is still a long way to go for you to make money with filmmaking.

With kindest regards

I9900K, RTX 2080, 32GB RAM, 512Mb M2, 1TB SSD, VEGAS Pro 14-20 (Post), Magix ProX, HitfilmPro
AMD 5900, RTX 3090 TI, 64GB RAM, 1 TB M2 SSD, 4 TB HD, VP 21 Post, VP22

Monitor LG 32UN880; Camera Sony FDR-AX53; Photo Canon EOS, Samsung S22 Ultra

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/26/2020, 3:44 PM

Please familiarize yourself with taking screenshots instead of using a camera to photograph the monitor.

@frmax Well, honestly, I don't have a problem with taking any screenshots (in my case with my iPhone at least) but it's just that I never know how to take a screenshot from my new laptop here or with any other computers before in my life and so I didn't think that taking a picture from my iPhone and just emailing/sharing them on here would be a problem (unless my quality just isn't that good perhaps because I used an iPhone XR that I bought last year - unless it doesn't matter)?

This forum is not like your Vlog, it's more about technical aspects, not emotional descriptions.

Yes I definitely do agree with you that this forum isn't meant to be used as a vlog (funny enough that I actually do some vlog videos on my YouTube channel by the way; lucky guess there) and, like I said from before in my post, I'm new to this community as I had never done forum posts before 'til I started this month and so I'm just learning while going along with everything here as I don't mind getting any advises from anyone at all.

As for the emotional aspect, I just thought that this forum wouldn't be any different from a post on Yahoo Answers and so I thought it was ok to include my own personal situation in relation to my Vegas Pro issue while still going into some details on the technical aspects on it so that I would give out better context to the situation I've been dealing with for nearly two months now. But either way, thanks for being straightforward with me about it and I'll keep that in mind for next time.

Video editing is a challenging topic for a PC, the undersizing of your RAM is an essential fact that you have not changed.

I hope I'm getting you correct on what you meant there but...yeah I do agree that video editing is a challenging topic since there are so many different specific issues that comes along with it. Also, when you said that my RAM is undersized due to the fact that I didn't changed at all, what do you mean by me not changing due to my small amount of RAM because I don't get the context of what you're trying to get at here? By the way, I already do know that my RAM is small (8GB) for my Vegas Pro's rendering process since I've been told numerous times about it before to increase it to 16GB but I still choose to wait on that decision once I first take care of having to split up and render pieces of my movie review to see if they'll be able to work without rendering the whole thing because my file size is obviously WAY too long to do it entirely.

Errors with "local bridge exe" are usually caused by Windows system, e.g. missing update of the NET framework, but also when the process demands too much of the hardware.

Honestly, I'm not exactly sure if there's any missing updates or any errors from my Windows system (although I'm not that too familiar with a NET framework)? Also, when you mention that the process demands too much of my hardware, you were referring to my rendering process demanding too much data from my hardware (which involves taking data from both my graphics card and my RAM) but it wouldn't work due to lack of space from it; is that correct?

Your photos show a load of clips that suggest an overload of RAM.

Why thanks for taking notice of my media files from my pictures since I didn't bothered to go into details on that in my post above. And yes that is correct; which it's why I've been told to increase my RAM in order to support getting a 5 hour long movie review rendered without crashing but I just think that it would be best to split the whole thing up instead so that it wouldn't be a burden on me anymore and PLUS I just don't feel like spending money on purchasing another stick of 8GB RAM unless it later comes into reconsidering if nothing works out in the end.

My suggestion: First, take only a section of your planned work of maximum 5 minutes and check whether this can be done without crashes. Then you would at least have the chance to differentiate whether Vegas itself has a problem or just the hardware or its settings.

Sure I would definitely do that little test right away and see if your suggestion works but unfortunately (as you should probably know according to my post above) I'm not able to open up my movie review project after having to take one of @frosty's advises like a few days ago as I would keep on getting both that error code and that pop-up box telling me that I don't have a license anymore and please keep in mind that I ordered a new legit Vegas Pro 365 like about a week ago and so this shouldn't be the case at all.

With this in mind, I wish you to be accepted into the 4-year private art college program in Minneapolis, because there is still a long way to go for you to make money with filmmaking.

I really appreciate your encouragement for me to get accepted in a college program I wanted to go to someday and yes I also agree that it would be a long ways to make that possible with the career I wanted to seek since it's like $40,000 to get in and PLUS it also comes with my GPA records from my current community college instead of showing a degree for approval due to being a 'private' program; which it's why I wanted to get my YouTube job ready so that I could earn a lot of money from my ad revenue to prepare for my own future goals and I won't be able to do that unless someone on here helps me get my rendering issue resolves once and for all if I want to make this become a reality.

By the way, I might be nitpicking here a bit but since you brought up about me getting transferred to another college program someday, I'm planning on going to the Minneapolis College of Art & Design (MCAD) possibly next year since I might need to earn more extra grade points for my fourth college term this fall before that ever happens. Also, I'm still surprised that you even bothered to read my first post from two weeks ago since it's an extremely long post to go through and I know this because I didn't mention anything about my 4-year private art college program on here.

Anyways, do you have anymore questions or do you already get the big picture after telling you about my movie review project not opening up?

john_dennis wrote on 5/26/2020, 4:37 PM

@Dustin-Schaefbauer

"...but it's just that I never know how to take a screenshot from my new laptop..."

  • Press the Print Screen Key
  • Type "Paint" into the Windows Search Box

 

  • Left Click on Paint on the Start Menu
  • When Paint opens, Strike Control+V to move the contents of the Windows Clipboard to Paint.
  • Edit and save as YourFilename.png
  • Upload.

It's worked this way since Windows had a clipboard.

frmax wrote on 5/26/2020, 5:48 PM

Microsoft NET Framework 4.0 SP1 is required (see Tech Specs) for Vegas Pro. The current version is 4.7

Possibly only NET 3.5 is installed. Therefore either install NET 4.7 or follow one of the numerous Youtube guides to find out your own NET version.

Maybe this also helps for the local bridge bug:

 

I9900K, RTX 2080, 32GB RAM, 512Mb M2, 1TB SSD, VEGAS Pro 14-20 (Post), Magix ProX, HitfilmPro
AMD 5900, RTX 3090 TI, 64GB RAM, 1 TB M2 SSD, 4 TB HD, VP 21 Post, VP22

Monitor LG 32UN880; Camera Sony FDR-AX53; Photo Canon EOS, Samsung S22 Ultra

EricLNZ wrote on 5/26/2020, 7:10 PM

Isn't the Windows 'Snipping Tool' the easiest way to take screenshots. You can draw out the area you want to capture, and highlight/draw on it, then save as a file. No need for Printscreen and fiddling with Paint.

john_dennis wrote on 5/26/2020, 7:22 PM

@EricLNZ

I use the Snipping Tool at times, but, if I’m stacking multiple clips, I go straight to Photoshop from the Clipboard. Even then, I do highlights and line work in Paint since I can do it in my sleep...

... my normal state.

EricLNZ wrote on 5/26/2020, 7:31 PM

Thanks @john_dennis. I just thought Dustin would find the Snipping Tool easier.

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/26/2020, 8:02 PM

Press the Print Screen Key

Type "Paint" into the Windows Search Box

 

Left Click on Paint on the Start Menu

When Paint opens, Strike Control+V to move the contents of the Windows Clipboard to Paint.

Edit and save as YourFilename.png

Upload.

It's worked this way since Windows had a clipboard.

@john_dennis Ok. So first off, I did followed your advice there but it didn't worked for me in this case. So I decided to just look up on Google on how to take a screenshot from my laptop as it turned out that all I have to do is just press down both "Windows logo key + PrtScn" in order to do so; it was apparently that simple. But either way, thanks for at least trying to help me out.

And second, I'm actually a bit surprised that you would even bother to reply back to me since your last comment from my other post like two weeks ago as you haven't got involved in wanting to help me out while I was getting advises from other users at the time. But I'm gonna guess that you kinda decided to change your mind and didn't want to look bad from before; either way...I do appreciate you having a change of heart there.

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/26/2020, 8:06 PM

Isn't the Windows 'Snipping Tool' the easiest way to take screenshots. You can draw out the area you want to capture, and highlight/draw on it, then save as a file. No need for Printscreen and fiddling with Paint.

@EricLNZ I was about to take your advice there but since I already just found out another way to take a screenshot after having to quickly research that answer on Google not too long ago. So yeah, I'm good; thanks for at least giving me a suggestion there.

Thanks @john_dennis. I just thought Justin would find the Snipping Tool easier.

By the way, I think you meant to say "Dustin" and not "Justin"; I'm guessing that was probably a typo there.

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/26/2020, 9:04 PM

Microsoft NET Framework 4.0 SP1 is required (see Tech Specs) for Vegas Pro. The current version is 4.7

Possibly only NET 3.5 is installed. Therefore either install NET 4.7 or follow one of the numerous Youtube guides to find out your own NET version.

Maybe this also helps for the local bridge bug:

@frmax So apparently I found out that I already have one in my laptop after trying to download the NET 4.7 version online but it wouldn't allow me due to already having another version installed on it.

Also, I just checked out that YouTube tutorial on updating my troubleshooter and so I already took care of it after restarting my laptop.

So, any other advises or questions for me to know?

And by the way, would you like to answer any of my other questions from one of my previous comments on here please?

EricLNZ wrote on 5/26/2020, 9:10 PM

By the way, I think you meant to say "Dustin" and not "Justin"; I'm guessing that was probably a typo there.

 

@Dustin-Schaefbauer Apologies. More probably a brain fade than a typo. Anyway now corrected.

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/26/2020, 10:14 PM

Apologies. More probably a brain fade than a typo. Anyway now corrected.

@EricLNZ Oh that's alright; it happens to the best of us sometimes.

set wrote on 5/26/2020, 10:58 PM

 

You are throwing an extremely long project at a system that isn't powerful enough to do it. You're going to have to take some workaround steps to make it work. Render it out in chunks to either Magix Intermediate or Magix AVC if that takes too long or requires too much disk space.

Agree with this... 5 hours video is wow.

Even I just have a 60 seconds experiment video that requires a total of 6.5 hours to render, to make it safe, I better go with partial renders, STEP BY STEP - PART BY PART.

Instead of going to 5 hours complete, go with 2 or 3 parts of 10 minutes duration rendering first, to Intermediate format or Sony MXF format, then from these , go render to final delivery Magix AVC MP4 Internet settings.

 

Hopefully you have also set Video Resampling to Disable Resample, because that will also affecting the rendering time. We have no idea what frame rates of film source you are reviewing with, and video specification of you yourself talking to the camera. They can be 23.976 fps, true 24 fps, 29.97 fps, or 30 fps.

 

The other way of showing*, although of course you might need to rework a little bit of your super long project... split the 5 hours to say Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc. - In YouTube, 'combine' those 'video parts' by YouTube Playlist feature.

 

*Yes, you may disagree ~ as it will change your 'original plan', but I just offer the quick solution since 5 hours is 'not usual' duration for common viewers, and I knew from your YouTube v-logs there (only seeing your titles), you have delayed this project so many times. I hope you don't have to do this, but you can think this way for your plan B.

 

Good Luck.

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frmax wrote on 5/27/2020, 1:36 PM

A screenshot shows Error code 59, so it seems you have still trouble with license

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/troubleshooting-error-59-16xx-and-account-already-exists--537/

is the recommended way. Perhaps progress can be made with this.

With an example project I did not mean your whole (currently not loadable) project, but for example

Magix Sample Project 4K link ...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qoaym1jgpgo8l05/AABec7Jhg_c3jTDJZNxDXB1Wa?dl=0

See https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking--116285/ for instructions.

If you can´t load this Project, reset your Vegas Pro 17 ( instructions here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

Last:

You don't seem to be a technology freak, so it would be useful to get help directly (not via internet forums) from an expert, even with the current settings and configuration of your operating system.
It's too difficult to deduce from your writing where the errors and problems really are, your descriptions are often rather emotional and have their own interpretations. We as users of this forum cannot remote control you like a robot to bring this process to success in a meaningful and goal-oriented way. 

 

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Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/27/2020, 3:39 PM

@set Ok then, let me get this out of the way first. First off, I had to go to sleep last night since I was feeling too tired to reply back to you.

Anyways, I just want to let you know that I really didn't appreciated the fact that you blocked me out from answering anyone's questions related to my Vegas Pro issue on my previous post weeks ago without me having a saying in it to explain myself to you why I had to clarify the other users' suggestions so that I could get the context what they were trying to do for me and I didn't mean to come off as repetitive or naïve when asking them questions at the time as I assumed you were annoyed with me about it and thought that I was taking advantage of using a pirated software then.

So to make things a bit more clear to you, (1) I'm not an expert on Vegas Pros whatsoever and that is why I had to figure out what I'm even doing with the suggestions I was testing out then for myself. And (2) I'm aware of the fact that cracked versions are pirated after being told what cracked versions are over a month ago (since I had no idea what they meant back then) but I wasn't sure if the software that I got from eBay months ago was pirated or not and fortunately I was able to contact @fr0sty from his private messages when I shared him the detailed info from my order off from eBay after I copied and pasted it to him so he could look over it for himself and confirm to me if it is or not and so far he confirmed that it was as he recommended me to buy an updated legit version on vegascreativesoftware.com by ordering a Vegas Pro 365 over a week ago.

So yeah, I wasn't sure if I had been screwed over from ordering my previous version from eBay as I didn't think there would be scams on that website at the time but now apparently it seems to be the case and so having to be interrupted by you wasn't really ideal to me but at least I figured out how to contact the others from their profiles and I can tell you that @fr0sty had been quite helpful for awhile 'til he just gave up on me without any heads-up and then being insulted by him for questioning him why he was ignoring my latest issue here for two days straight and so this is what lead me to this situation in the first place as he never responded back to me from his private message after he had the nerve to give me a comment on here yesterday but wouldn't even talk to me more privately about our situation. Anyways, I'm actually a bit surprised that you would even want to help me out again and found this unexpected since being blocked by an impatient moderator and then for that moderator to just come back to help me out does seems to be somewhat awkward in this case and so I'm gonna guess that you might've felt bad about it before deciding to continue to help me with my issue after you changed your mind about it; either way...I think I'll just accept your suggestions here and try to forgive you about what happened the last time so we could get all of this resolved before we can finally move on from this.

Agree with this... 5 hours video is wow.

Obviously, I'm aware of that and I never anticipate for this to ever happen when creating that development hell of a movie review pilot; believe me...I've learned my own lesson from this.

Even I just have a 60 seconds experiment video that requires a total of 6.5 hours to render, to make it safe, I better go with partial renders, STEP BY STEP - PART BY PART.

Well, I do hear you on that one and yes I should know because the file size is what determines how long it takes for a project to get rendered but it also depends on what rendering setting (formats and templates) we use for that project. Also, when you say partial renders, I think you're referring to splitting up my whole movie review into smaller sections and render them individually. If so, I'm actually quite aware of that as well because I've been told so many times by my tech support agents and even @fr0sty to do so and I couldn't agree more.

Instead of going to 5 hours complete, go with 2 or 3 parts of 10 minutes duration rendering first, to Intermediate format or Sony MXF format, then from these , go render to final delivery Magix AVC MP4 Internet settings.

Again, I wouldn't even try to render the entire thing (even if I tried) and that I also had once tested out on rendering both a smaller and a larger project (one of them being 2 minutes long and the other being over an hour long) for comparisons like a few weeks ago and see if any of them worked out without crashing and so far they were surprisingly successful while my movie review project would still keep on failing on the other hand. Also, I've been originally splitting up sections of it within around each hour so that I could turn them into "Parts 1-5" on YouTube to my own preference since I don't want to risk on making parts of my movie review look awkward or out of place if I were to either cut off/interrupt my own commentaries on camera or even video clips of the Emoji Movie in the middle of their scenes without having an accurate pausing moment (which it's why I was initially skeptical about that option but still I do think that it's the only better option since I don't want to give off a bad impression for my new subscribers/viewers).

As for the rendering setting, @fr0sty told me to try out the Intermediate format/template as it took forever to render both the whole movie review and the first split up section of it (after I copied/pasted it onto a new project page) for comparisons and then I later tested out with my usual settings (MAGIX AVC/AAC MP4 format and Internet HD 1080p 29.97 fps template) on my first section but that also failed on me; which keep in mind that instead of getting a "VEGAS Pro has stopped working" message I ended up with both an 'occurred error' and an 'application error' (both SDXHelper.exe and LocalBridge.exe) and then I finally end up with that error code after having to restart my laptop since my software was buffering from those other errors after crashing so many times. But still, even if I were to try out your other recommendation there, I still cant be able to open up my movie review project or my Vegas Pro software itself and @fr0sty won't even give me an explanation to why this has occurred after he made me go through all of that.

Hopefully you have also set Video Resampling to Disable Resample, because that will also affecting the rendering time. We have no idea what frame rates of film source you are reviewing with, and video specification of you yourself talking to the camera. They can be 23.976 fps, true 24 fps, 29.97 fps, or 30 fps.

(1) I had been setting up my video resample to disable resample as always regardless. (2) Well, all I can tell you is that I used my iPhone XR for my video sessions while I used my Voice Memos app for my audio commentaries as well as converting some YouTube clips from my Readdle Documents app before sharing them onto my laptop via email and then finally converting music soundtracks into MP4 files from my Viddly on my laptop (to be more specific here). And (3) I had only tried out the 29.97 fps for both my rendering setting and my project properties setting as recommended by others.

The other way of showing*, although of course you might need to rework a little bit of your super long project... split the 5 hours to say Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc. - In YouTube, 'combine' those 'video parts' by YouTube Playlist feature.

Again, I still agree to that decision since my situation here is a bit of a rare case for anyone to go through just to make a YouTube movie review.

I hope you don't have to do this, but you can think this way for your plan B.

It's alright; I was gonna reconsider on thinking about buying another stick of 8GB of RAM online so that I could incrase my RAM in order to support my movie review's file size but then again I already figured out how to split up and copy sections of the whole thing and try to render them from there instead as I don't mind creating continued parts of a movie review on my YouTube channel without risking on making a world record movie review by default; although it would've been interesting to see how my viewers would react to it as a type of social experiment so that I could learn something from this in the end. Anyways, thanks for at least understanding what I had been going through lately and also thanks for checking out my vlogs from my own channel there as well.

*By the way, some of those questions that I answered for you about what type of video equipment I used for my movie review and having to split up sections of it had already been mentioned in my previous post but I'm guessing that you didn't read through all of it due to being such a long read and I can understand that.

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/27/2020, 5:33 PM

A screenshot shows Error code 59, so it seems you have still trouble with license

@frmax Ok, so before I do anything after having to follow the instructions from that troubleshooting page you shared to me and just to be sure there's no miscommunication here, you do understanding that I ordered a legit Vegas Pro 365 from vegascreativesoftware.com to replace my previous Sony Vegas Pro 17 that I ordered from eBay months ago since it was later confirmed to be pirated unbeknownst to me at the time and that I was still able to get it opened up and test out my rendering settings for about a week now before @fr0sty's last suggestion did something to my software that caused that error code in the first place after having to restart my laptop (which it's why I showed those pictures from last Sunday on my post here so that you get the context of what I'm currently deal with) and he wouldn't even reply back to me after what he made me did to my software.

Either way, there should be a license on my new software (I can show you a picture from days ago of that license from my splash screen as prove of this) and so this doesn't make any sense?

With an example project I did not mean your whole (currently not loadable) project, but for example

Magix Sample Project 4K link ...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qoaym1jgpgo8l05/AABec7Jhg_c3jTDJZNxDXB1Wa?dl=0

See https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking--116285/ for instructions.

(1) Ok...what exactly do you mean by giving you an example project? Because I double checked my previous responses to your comments and I have no idea where we had that type of conversation about that detail there? And (2) I wouldn't mind trying out those options but I won't be able to do them unless we get this error code fixed before doing so.

You don't seem to be a technology freak, so it would be useful to get help directly (not via internet forums) from an expert, even with the current settings and configuration of your operating system.

(1) You got that right; I'm only a casual common computer user and not a tech wiz (which it's why I obviously need help here because I have nowhere else to get support from by this point since I've tried everything). And (2) since I already brought this up from my post above, I had already tried to seek help from my tech support agents when they remote controlled my laptop for hours of our sessions but so far most of them weren't that helpful after wasting 5 weeks from last month of not getting anything resolved besides getting some answers to the source of my rendering issue however since they usually don't specialize in dealing with video editing issues (except I met a few of them that did).

Not only that but I was even told by them to either make a phone call to my manufacture's company or send them an email from their support center on their website but so far I had no answers from them whatsoever or their other suggestion to set up a face-to-face appointment with a Best Buy employee and get my laptop inspected so they could increase my RAM but since most Best Buy stores are still closed off to the public due to this ongoing COVID-19 pandemic...that's most likely not gonna happen 'til this pandemic goes away but I don't have that kind of patience when I should be moving on to make more YouTube contents this year and start making money from them because nobody knows how long this is gonna last for and I don't want to deal with it.

It's too difficult to deduce from your writing where the errors and problems really are, your descriptions are often rather emotional and have their own interpretations.

So, if I'm getting this correctly, are you trying to tell me that my comments to the other users on here are emotional because I was responding to their personal thoughts besides answering their questions whenever I either express my opinions or giving them compliments when I should be only speaking in more technical words and not talk like a causal person? Like, am I not clear to you when I ask you some questions from your other comments (to which you haven't yet answered most of them besides one of them)? Because I did at least tried to give out some technical details to the other users on here and I'm gonna guess that you haven't read those comments so that you know what's going on here; is that correct?

We as users of this forum cannot remote control you like a robot to bring this process to success in a meaningful and goal-oriented way. 

Well...I guess that's unfortunate since I think that would've been great if any of you would be able to do that but apparently it doesn't work like that on this website. I mean, at least I'm used to people remote controlling my laptop for a long time now and so if no one here are able to do that...I don't have a problem with that since I was only expecting to just communicate and asking questions via commenting and sharing screenshots on here to find out what could be done with my issue. So no, I don't expect you to remote control my laptop for this.

Marco. wrote on 5/27/2020, 5:58 PM

@Dustin-Schaefbauer
Keep your posts as tight as possible and – in relation to Vegas Pro issues – as objective as possible. Also drop your personal digs.

Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/27/2020, 6:09 PM

Keep your posts as tight as possible and – in relation to Vegas Pro issues – as objective as possible. Also drop your personal digs.

@Marco. Before I answer you personally, are you referring to my main post above or my comments to the other users down here?

Marco. wrote on 5/27/2020, 6:31 PM

I refer to all of your posts which are either much more bloated as necessary or which contain personal digs or both of it. No need to discuss. Just keep your posts tight and objective. It's only about using Vegas Pro.

set wrote on 5/27/2020, 6:35 PM

I believe all of us moderators and other members who replied this post are agree that Marco refers to all of your posts.

And rule is a rule. We moderators agree to lock that previous thread which you don't appreciate it.

Sure you may have a lot of time typing, writing, explaining to other people about your issues, but other people don't have sufficient time reading and understanding yours.

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Dustin-Schaefbauer wrote on 5/27/2020, 6:39 PM

I refer to all of your posts which are either much more bloated as necessary or which contain personal digs or both of it. No need to discuss. Just keep your posts tight and objective.

@Marco. Ok...I do get that I should try to be brief with my thoughts regardless after getting some remarks from a few others ever since I posted anything on this forum. But what I don't get here is are you referring to like two of my posts and not my comments (just go be more specific here for better context)?