Uploaded Videos from Vegas Pro 17 not sync on iPhone

jurivic-t wrote on 5/21/2024, 6:35 PM

Hey there, I have a problem with Vegas pro 17, after uploading my Video on YouTube it’s not sync on iPhone (IOS) but on PC everything works fine and smooth, I tried already everything... Handbreak converter, set under files/IO so4 to false (after put it on false the files all turning green) so what can I do.

Tried to rename the compundplug.dll like in the linked video to get rid of the green files, but it doesnt work.. also replacing doesnt work:

Also include my project property and render settings.

Hopefully someone can helps me, im really frustrated... already showing to fix it for serveral days...

 

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EricLNZ wrote on 5/21/2024, 8:04 PM

Let's have a look at your iPhone files with MediaInfo. Instructions here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

jurivic-t wrote on 5/21/2024, 8:21 PM
Allgemein
Complete name                            : C:\Users\jtche\Videos\One Piece Amv 1.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/iso2/mp41)
File size                                : 349 MiB
Duration                                 : 3 min 6s
Overall bit rate                         : 15,7 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 59,940 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2024-05-21 17:21:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-05-21 17:21:34 UTC
Writing application                      : HandBrake 1.8.0 2024052000

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L4.1@Main
Codec ID                                 : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 3 min 6s
Bit rate                                 : 15,5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 Pixel
Height                                   : 1 080 Pixel
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : variabel
Frame rate                               : 59,940 (60000/1001) FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 59,920 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 59,960 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.125
Stream size                              : 345 MiB (99%)
Encoded date                             : 2024-05-21 17:21:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-05-21 17:21:34 UTC
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 3 min 6s
Source duration                          : 3 min 6s
Bit rate mode                            : konstant
Bit rate                                 : 164 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 Kanäle
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48,0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46,875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 3,64 MiB (1%)
Source stream size                       : 3,64 MiB (1%)
Title                                    : Stereo / Stereo
Language                                 : Englisch
Default                                  : Ja
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : 2024-05-21 17:21:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-05-21 17:21:34 UTC

@EricLNZ oh sorry, i didn't know i can copy and paste it here. ^^

Im creating anime editing videos and the footage Formate was(MPEG-4) and i rendered it to MP4 (screenshots above)

but it doesn't should only works for me smooth, it should also works smooth and fine for other ios user... it wasnt before like that idk why this happen now... checked the rendered video with mediainfo, everything seems okay.

RogerS wrote on 5/21/2024, 10:09 PM

Don't rename plugins that VEGAS needs to open files! You are watching a video on VP 13 which doesn't even have the same media decoder as 17 (so4compoundplug largely replaced compoundplug and it and another are used for HEVC).

I don't think 17 could open 10-bit HEVC media. My suggestion would be not to use 10-bit HEVC in old versions of VEGAS and to convert it with a tool like ShutterEncoder so VEGAS can properly read it and render good files. You already seem to know how to use Handbrake now use the production standard preset and stick to 8-bit AVC.

jurivic-t wrote on 5/21/2024, 10:15 PM

@RogerS And how to do it :c

My Editing is completely done and it tools me hours.. so how should I continue? What I have to do?
Weird is that on pc looks everything smooth on YouTube but on phone not :(

Could you please give me a small guide what’s to do, all just what I do until now is trying some fix Tutorials but nothing works until now :(

RogerS wrote on 5/21/2024, 10:34 PM

First, for "set under files/IO so4 to false"- don't do that.

Try to render 8-bit AVC (MagixAVC using the template that matches your project framerate and resolution) and see if it works. You are using the older Sony AVC format which I haven't tested in years. Try MagixAVC with Mainconcept at first and see if it sounds right on your phone. Test the file directly, not through YouTube. Then test on YouTube.

Are both the PC and phone in sync?

If it's a problem with one or more source files (variable framerate losing sync?), convert them to 8-bit AVC/h264 outside of VEGAS (Handbrake or Shutter Encoder), then right-click the media in the VEGAS "project media" pool and "replace media" and point it to your newly rendered file. It won't affect the edits of this media. Save the .veg project with a new name so you can easily undo this if you don't want to use the new files.

The one thing that puzzles me is why the phone and computer would playback the same YouTube file differently. I think remove YouTube as a variable and first make sure the file itself is in sync on both and then you can experiment with render settings for YouTube uploads.

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jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 3:52 AM

@RogerS i tried to swap the video on my phone and its still unsync on my phone.. pc player works fine and for youtube on pc looks all good too :(

In Vegas self i tried to pre-rendering it to see if there is an unsync point but nothing can be found, on pc everything looks good and smooth.

RogerS wrote on 5/22/2024, 4:04 AM

Maybe share a link to the video and see if others with iPhones also have an issue? You can't really control what YouTube does.

You can try to trigger the use of a different codec by YouTube by exporting as a higher resolution (1440p); no idea if that will help you though.

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 4:10 AM

@RogerS rendered with MagixAVC, now its full of pixels and in a bad quality  

That was the first try before:

Maybe it’s just really only for me.. idk im frustrated why this only happen on my phone 🥺

RogerS wrote on 5/22/2024, 5:51 AM

How can you tell if the

I right clicked on "stats for nerds" on YouTube. It seems to have been reconverted to a mix of AVC video and Opus audio. It's possible iPhones have issues with that combination? Both videos have that issue.

For MagixAVC try Mainconcept (avoid QSV), pick a 2160p template and increase the maximum bitrate (say 60,000,000). Upload it and see if it looks any better- you might get VP9 with Opus instead.

Also the audio levels are too high at +7. YouTube targets a loudness of closer to -16 LUFS (see the "loudness log" in VEGAS). Otherwise YouTube will quiet it automatically for you.

 

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 5:58 AM

@RogerS

''For MagixAVC try Mainconcept (avoid QSV), pick a 2160p template and increase the maximum bitrate (say 60,000,000). Upload it and see if it looks any better- you might get VP9 with Opus instead.''

 

Should i do it under project properties or render settings?

Could you tell me a bit more how should i continue, because if it comes to render options or settings im a kinda noob ^^

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 6:07 AM

it gives me only this 2 not with (avoid QSV)

 

RogerS wrote on 5/22/2024, 6:14 AM

Try a 2160 template (so 2840x2160) with maximum bitrate of say 60 million, minimum 40. Look at the file in your media player and see if the compression looks okay. If so, upload to YouTube, let it process, look at the stats (right-click) and see what codecs it is using. See if the compression artifacts and also audio sync on the Iphone are better.

If that works you can also try NVENC which is much faster.

mark-y wrote on 5/22/2024, 8:08 AM

Vegas Pro 17 does not support Variable Frame Rate video.

If I'm reading you correctly, the solution should be simple -- Set your Handbrake Video tab to "Constant" and "Same as Source"

RogerS wrote on 5/22/2024, 8:24 AM

Is

Frame rate mode                          : variabel

Frame rate                               : 59,940 (60000/1001) FPS

Minimum frame rate                       : 59,920 FPS

Maximum frame rate                       : 59,960 FPS

really variable framerate or just an artifact from rounding we sometimes see in MediaInfo?

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 8:27 AM

@RogerS Should I try again with handbreak to convert it same as source? Already tried it but maybe I’d need more tries 🥺

RogerS wrote on 5/22/2024, 8:34 AM

If there's nothing wrong with the file rendered out from VEGAS (you tested it on your phone and computer?) then don't bother. What you need to focus on is gaming YouTube and uploading higher resolution files can trigger different YouTube conversions.

In general take care with your Handbrake conversions. I'd work from the production standard preset and constant framerate and same as source is what you want to use. Also limit keyframe interval (keyint=framerate) in the advanced settings box below for better playback in VEGAS.

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 9:09 AM

@RogerS On Pc after rendering and upload looks everything fine and smooth, but on Phone no matter if YouTube or just opening Video on iPhone it’s unsync, how should I continue then would be nice to get an fix 🥺

Im really noobie if it comes with settings or advanced stuff 😅

 

+++ Icluding, i tries it out also with my girlfriends iPhone 15 its the same issue...

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 9:17 AM

@RogerS Tried a 2160 template (so 2840x2160) with maximum bitrate of say 60 million, minimum 40 but still doesnt work... youtube says (screenshot)

Codecs: vp09.00.51.08.01.01.01.01.00 (303) / opus (251)

RogerS wrote on 5/22/2024, 9:27 AM

If the media doesn't work right then YouTube codecs aren't an issue. Hopefully it at least looks better this time.

Try reencoding the source media with the Handbrake settings we described and replace the media by right clicking on the files in project media in VEGAS.

 

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 9:31 AM

@RogerS i used for my anime edit some Anime episodes so i should reencoding the episodes in handbreak and then replace them in vegas?? ^^

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 11:19 AM

okay ill tried to reencoding the source media with handbreak and then to replace em, but still doesnt helps...

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 12:01 PM

Would it maybe help and solve the problem if I would update Vegas pro version to a newer one like Vegas pro 18?

If yes would it be still possible to open my Vegas 17 save file in the newer ones?

Really tried a lot now for couple of days 😮‍💨

mark-y wrote on 5/22/2024, 6:52 PM

Is

Frame rate mode                          : variabel

Frame rate                               : 59,940 (60000/1001) FPS

Minimum frame rate                       : 59,920 FPS

Maximum frame rate                       : 59,960 FPS

really variable framerate or just an artifact from rounding we sometimes see in MediaInfo?

I think you are right on this one. I hadn't looked closely enough; it looks like rounding jitter from Handbrake's 90Khz clock frequency. Good catch.

jurivic-t wrote on 5/22/2024, 7:06 PM

So what should I better do, upgrade Vegas and try with Vegas 18? 😅