Yes, it crashes for me on V11. It does open on the only non-Vegas editor I have here - here's its output:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1421565/00137%20%28crashes%20Vegas%2010.0e%20every%20time%29.wmv

Windows media player plays it just fine. V10E 32 crash. V11520 crash. This is a Vista 64 bit machine.
JJK

Opens just fine in VP 8.1 64bit (build 171) -- crashes VP 11 64bit (build 521)
on a Vista 64 bit Machine.

The clip plays fine in Windows Media Player on my Win7-64 SP1 system. But when I put the clip on the VMS timeline I get the message "THis clip has multiple audio tracks. Do you want to convert to 5.1 sound." (or words to that effect.

When I click Yes I get the crash immediately after VMS creates the new audio tracks.

What camera records 5.1 sound anyway?

What camera records 5.1 sound anyway?An awful lot of the newer cameras do. Of course you don't get a whole lot of separation, and the .1 channel is not going to be of much use, but the sound portion of the video is indeed 5.1.

I just did a quick look at the cameras on Slashcam and of the 61 models introduced in the past year, my rough estimate is that close to, or perhaps slightly more, than 50% of the new camcorders have 5.1 sound.

Here crashes Vegas Pro 11 64 521 in all windows.

Works fine in A d o b e P r e m i e r e 5.5.2 and E d i u s 6.02. With audio 6 ch

Erni

When copy/paste the error info of Vegas crash, this forum reject my message:

Your request has been blocked.

If you feel you have been blocked in error, please contact Sony Creative Software for assistance.

You will need to reference incident ID number.

The incident ID number for this request is: blablablabla.

Strange, not?

Erni

The file caused Vegas Pro 11-521 on WIndows 7 64 bit to crash and start a report.

I remuxed to transport stream (ts) in tsMuxer and got these errors for those who know about transport streams.

MTS to ts Error

Attempt to demux

Vegas 8.0 worked.

"What camera records 5.1 sound anyway? "

My two Sony HDR-XR500V's do. I could turn that feature on, record a video and see if it will load in Vegas 11.

Last time I tried it was with version 10 and it did not crash so it has been a while.

I downloaded this clip and it crashes on Vegas versions 9 through 11. It crashes on load so I do not have to do anything else.

If I reload the video I will see the built peaks so it does build the peaks and then it crashes.

Vegas does not like this file. I sent the error reports each time. It will be interesting to see what happens with my cameras 5.1 files.

It doesnt necessarily crashes Vegas 10.0e immediately
for me, but an error Dialogue box comes up as soon as
i try to play or try to do anything else.

Vegas 8.0c
It plays video & audio

Vegas 9.0e
"Vegas Pro has stopped working" error as soon as it is dropped on timeline.

My camera video with 5.1 audio loads fine in Vegas.

Looking at the properties of the videos in Windows and also looking at the details your video shows 6 channels and mine shows 2. With Vegas set to separate each channel to a track your video has 6 channel and mine also has 6 channels. Mine has two streams and yours has ? number of streams. I cannot find out how many streams yours has as far as Vegas is concerned because of the crash.

Just for kicks I used Hand Brake to convert your video to MP4 with 6 discrete channels. It will load into Vegas 11 just fine with all 6 channels and looks just as good as the original.

So there is something in the way your original video is created that does not agree with Vegas 9 through 11.

"... close to, or perhaps slightly more, than 50% of the new camcorders have 5.1 sound."

The latest consumer buzzword?

"So its vision codec related perhaps."

Almost certainly.
I think if the camera was switched to 30p there would be no problem.

Bob.

Borrowed CX700.
Shot some 50p and 25p.
I really expected the 25p to work and the 50p to cause issues but both worked just fine, even the surround looked like it should.

All attempts to add your 60p sample I downloaded caused an instant crash in both V10 and V11.
I was able to add it to the Project media but adding it to the T/L caused a fairly prompt crash after it had finished displaying the waveform.
At one time did have some joy if I first Muted All Video. I could then add it to the T/L and at least see the thumbnails. All attempts to repeat this have failed, very strange.

I can only conclude that my previous idea that the problem is related to 50/60p not being part of the AVCHD spec is wrong.

Bob.

Through the years I have found that Vegas is unforgiving if there are errors in the imported media file. To work-around this I have used PP or other applications to re-render the file to the same file format. I always check to make certain the new file is about the same file size as the old just to make sure I didn't accidently degrade the quality settings, etc. I also check the sound sync at a few points near the beginning, middle and end. Since I let the program render when I am doing other things, it really does not waste much time. It's a lot more efficient than trying to figure-out which Vegas version will work long-enough cycles between crashes to get any work done...

"I can only conclude that my previous idea that the problem is related to 50/60p not being part of the AVCHD spec is wrong"1080 50/60p including 5.1 audio is a part of the AVCHD 2.0 Addendum

...Jerry

I just did a 5.1 and 50p (sorry, but I´m in PAL-land) video recording with my own CX700 (actually model CX690 = 700 without internal flash memory) and the Mediainfo looks precisely the same except for the 50/60p

Results here:

johnmeyer-clip: crashed 10.0e and 11/521 immediately

my own clip: no crash and works well with 10.0e and 11/521.


@johnmeyer: have you tried other clips from the same camera too? - maybe recorded directly to a SD card?

It crashes both Vegas Pro 10e 64bit, Vegas 11 64 bit 521. PP CS 5.5 does not
Win 7 Pro 64bit

Many thanks to everyone for all their help. I think I now have the information I need to let SCS know that this particular problem extends to Vegas 11.

I really appreciate the TSMuxer information. I think that gets to the heart of what is going on.

Also, I got a PM, via YouTube from a lurker here who says that the file loads into SoundForge 9 just fine. I surmise that the MainConcept AVCHD decoder, which according to what we've discovered in this thread is used in Vegas 8, but not in later versions, is probably used in SF9 as well.

What I am hoping is that SCS can find a way to determine if an AVCHD file is "compliant" with the obviously stricter specs that they require for the file to be read and displayed on the timeline using their own AVCHD decoder, and if it doesn't meet those specs, the older, slower but more forgiving (less crash prone) MainConcept decoder be used instead.

As I have mentioned recently in other threads, this is exactly how things worked (and maybe still work) with HDV. In that case, the MainConcept MPEG-2 decoder was used for HDV in the early days, but then starting with Vegas 7, SCS developed their own HDV decoder in order to improve performance when editing HDV directly (i.e., without first converting to Cineform or other intermediate). They obviously did some sort of check because the HDV captured with HDV Split was handled using the MainConcept decoder, whereas the same HDV material captured with the Vegas HDV capture applet was (is) decoded by the SCS decoder.

The plot thickens - on my WinXPproSp3 PC, where these applications are loaded:

SoundForge9e: not recognized as a 'known media file', but can open = only 2-track Audio appears, no Video.

SoundForgePro10c: recognized as a 'known media type'; file opens with Video and 6-track Audio. Plays fine.
File name 00137 (crashes Vegas 10.0e every time).MTS
Location C:\TempFile size 127.29 MB (130,337,956 bytes)
File attributes - --a- ----
Last saved 2012-02-01 08:15:40
File type MPEG-2 Transport Stream
Audio format Dolby AC-3
Audio sample rate 48,000
Audio bit rate 56,000 bytes/sec
Audio bit depth 16 bit
Audio channels 6 (5.1 Surround)
Audio length 00:00:40.157 (1,927,525 samples)
Video format AVC
Video attributes 1920x1080x32, 59.940 fps
Video length 00:00:40.157 (2,407 frames)
Video field order None (progressive scan)
Video pixel aspect ratio 1.0000 (Square)

VegasPro8c: recognized as a 'known media type'; file opens with Video and 6-track Audio. Plays fine.
General
Name: 00137 (crashes Vegas 10.0e every time).MTS
Folder: C:\Temp
Type: MPEG-2 Transport Stream
Size: 127.28 MB (130,337,956 bytes)
Created: Wednesday, February 01, 2012, 8:15:36 AM
Modified: Wednesday, February 01, 2012, 8:15:38 AM
Accessed: Wednesday, February 01, 2012, 8:15:38 AM
Attributes: Archive
Streams
Video: 00:00:40.157, 59.940 fps progressive, 1920x1080x12, AVC
Audio 1: 00:00:40.157, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround (stereo downmix), Dolby AC-3
Audio 2: 00:00:40.157, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround, Dolby AC-3

VegasPro9e: recognized as a 'known media type' but crashes (6-Chan Audio appears, Video track = grey) when added to timeline.

VegasPro10e: recognized as a 'known media type' but crashes (6-Chan Audio appears, Video track = grey) when added to timeline.

DVDArchitectPro5.0b: recognized as a 'known media type'. Plays fine.

DVDArchitectPro5.2_124 recognized as a 'known media type', can add to project, but crashes when attempt to Play.


and on another Win7_64 PC:

VegasPro11_520_32b = crash as above

DVDArchitectPro5.2_133 recognized as a 'known media type', can add to project, but crashes when attempt to Play.

Interesting that I had no luck opening the whole caboose with SoundForge9, whereas your 'lurker' did, and that there's no apparent problem with SoundForgePro10.