Vegas 9c - Up top!

Grazie wrote on 10/27/2009, 10:08 AM
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=679772&Replies=0Vegas Pro 9c[/link]

Just saw it . .

Grazie

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Tom Pauncz wrote on 10/27/2009, 10:09 AM
Got it! Thx. :-)
CorTed wrote on 10/27/2009, 10:17 AM
Looks like Windows 7 is now offficially supported

System Requirements■Microsoft® Windows® XP 32-bit SP2 (SP3 recommended), Windows Vista™ 32-bit or 64-bit (SP1 recommended), or Windows 7


Ted
TheRhino wrote on 10/27/2009, 10:54 AM
HOW COOL! Was just installing Windows 7 today on my main editing rig and couldn't find my 9.0b files, so I went to re-load them from the website and realized 9.0c was up. Couldn't be better timinng!

Now I just hope everything plays together nicely. I did a fresh install of Windows 7 and kept the old Vista 64 & programs on a separate HD. If anything fails, I just swap-in my working C: drive and wait until I have more time to sort-out any problems...

It appears to be easier to backup things within Windows 7. I have made backups of my C drive image along the way and at one point I went back to an earlier image on a USB drive without a hiccup.

I think 64 bit is finally here - just need SONY to update Noise Reduction plug-in to 64 bit....

Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

megabit wrote on 10/27/2009, 11:21 AM
- Fixed an issue that could cause the Windows Secondary Monitor to display incorrectly after performing a prerender.

Wow ! Going to test :)

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Grazie wrote on 10/27/2009, 11:35 AM
2nd Mon now working as it should with Prerends.

Grazie
VideJoe wrote on 10/27/2009, 12:14 PM
Error: CRC Mismatch
Aborting the installation

What the heck is that?
Laurence wrote on 10/27/2009, 12:14 PM
You know, when Vegas 10 comes out next year, I think I am going to buy it at the special introductory rate, but wait until the "c" update is released before I actually install it. This looks like it is finally the real thing and not some silly beta version! Cool!
VideJoe wrote on 10/27/2009, 12:22 PM
And on my 64 Bits Vista system I get this:

"Please make sure you have local administrator rights on this system
Cancelling the installation"

which I obviously have.
rs170a wrote on 10/27/2009, 12:36 PM
Error: CRC Mismatch

Probably a bad download.
Try grabbing it again.

Mike
VideJoe wrote on 10/27/2009, 1:00 PM
Thanks Mike, weird because the new 32 & 64 bits downloads have exact the same amount of bites.
64 Bits version installs now as well.
rs170a wrote on 10/27/2009, 1:09 PM
VideJoe, this happens every time a new version is announced.
I'm not sure if the servers get overloaded or what but a fresh download usually solves the problem.

Mike
Randy Hayes wrote on 10/27/2009, 1:50 PM
MCU Pro faders still flash four times when opening Vegas and once or twice when confirming a dialogue box. I had been told this would be fixed in this revision.

Still doesn't play nicely with the MOTU PCI-424 interface. And mercy, 64-bit still crashes at the drop of a hat. Guess I'm still in the same boat since what, July? At least the 64-bit version can now access 64-bit VSTs, if only the program worked long enough to use them. I started out with a fresh install of Vista 64. Who thinks starting out with a fresh install of W7 will make any difference?
farss wrote on 10/27/2009, 2:18 PM
Added a Prioritize quality over speed check box to the MainConcept MPEG-2 and Sony MXF Custom Settings dialog.

That's interesting. I wonders what it's actually doing and when one would want speed over quality.

Bob.
Lou van Wijhe wrote on 10/27/2009, 2:22 PM
I suppose this long list of bug fixes is welcomed by many. Nevertheless, I had hoped there would also be a fix for the "video buffer underflow" bug that comes up when Pro 9 rendered AVC files are put into DVDA. Anyway, there is nothing about it in the release notes. But maybe it indeed is a bug in DVDA and not in Pro 9.

Lou
Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/27/2009, 3:09 PM
Yes, the video buffer underflow bug is fixed in V9c - from side of the Sony AVC encoder. So, it works now fine with DVDA 5b. Markers are exported from the Vegas timeline too, if you use the AVCHD templates in the Sony AVC encoder (but not if you use the Blu Ray templates, unfortunately). However, it works now!
Lou van Wijhe wrote on 10/27/2009, 3:44 PM
YES!!!
I just rendered a problematic clip using 9.0a which did cause the underflow error in DVDA and thereafter the same clip using 9.0c which didn't.

I'm happy but I don't understand why SCS didn't mention this bug fix in the release notes. And I do use the Bluray templates but I don't mind that the markers aren't exported, it's easy to enter them manually.

Lou
srode wrote on 10/27/2009, 6:45 PM
i'm also wondering what the MPEG-2 quality over speed box is doing - different codec?
rs170a wrote on 10/27/2009, 7:25 PM
Still no cure for the missing custom render templates.
As a matter of fact, this version made it even worse.
At least with 9.0b, I had 8 out of the 20 custom MPEG-2 templates that I have in Pro 8.0c.
After installing 9,0c, I now have NONE.
That's right. Zip, zero, zilch, nada :-(
SCS, what did you do this time?

Mike
LarryP wrote on 10/27/2009, 8:02 PM
The ability to select élastique Pro as the time stretch method in the event properties is very, very nice.

Larry
NickHope wrote on 10/27/2009, 9:30 PM
>> You know, when Vegas 10 comes out next year, I think I am going to buy it at the special introductory rate, but wait until the "c" update is released before I actually install it. This looks like it is finally the real thing and not some silly beta version! Cool! <<

I'm with you on that Laurence. For me, Vegas 8.0 was the same deal... wasn't really right until version c (when the HDV reader got updated).

Enhanced audio event timestretch and pitch shifting with zplane élastique Pro.

That's a nice surprise. I thought that functionality would only come with SF10. For my personal workflow, that's the first real potential benefit of 9.0 over 8.0.

>> Improvements to XDCAM (MXF),

That's pretty generalised. I wonder what they've actually done.

>> Added a Prioritize quality over speed check box to the MainConcept MPEG-2 and Sony MXF Custom Settings dialog. <<

It's a shame someone from SCS can't come in the forum and give us a bit more info about some of these changes/fixes, rather than have us guessing. Even some hints would help. It would only take a few minutes.

How responsive is the 9.0c preview now in terms of playing/pausing, crossing transition boundaries etc.? Still any delay, sluggishness compared to 8.0? I'm particularly interested in HDV. This has been the main thing holding me back from upgrading.
robwood wrote on 10/27/2009, 10:43 PM
it looks like the "User Created Custom Templates for MainConcept AVC/AAC reverting to 192,000bps (video), 6,000 bps (audio)" problem has not been fixed, but has been adjusted.

I get 4,000,000 (video) and 192kbps (audio) by default now... i'll check it again tomorrow when i get time.
Grazie wrote on 10/28/2009, 1:36 AM
Mike, not good. I hear you.

My experience is that of the 4 MPEG Templates I created in 9 they have carried through to 9c.

However . . and thank you for making me study this harder !!! . .

V8 4 x Grazie-MPEGs NOT carried over to 9 at all! These were me futzing about with CBR, streams and the like, and NONE of them had/have transported through to V9!

V8 to V9 for AVI looks fine. I had a Particle Illusion Template I found useful for a project and that HAS come over to V9 from V8. But it would appear that the MPEGs have gone M.I.A. !

Well at least I CAN copy the figures from a V8 MPEG Template into a NEW V9 MPEG Template and start over - but why should I?

TAXI!

Grazie

megabit wrote on 10/28/2009, 4:41 AM
Another nice touch - the mxf audio files now open in Sound Forge Audio Studio (they used to be out-rendered into 32bit, which is not supported by Audio Studio; now they maintain their original bit depth).

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FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 10/28/2009, 7:08 AM
Grazie: I had a Particle Illusion Template I found useful for a project and that HAS come over to V9 from V8

I'm never too sure what to use when using Particle Illusion. Please do tell or email me more about this PI template.