Vegas Pro 18 - VCE Render does not happen properly

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VVV wrote on 1/28/2021, 3:55 PM

Let me repeat again, the problem occurs only when the project settings are set to 48 fps.

In other words, I can render everything the same if I just specify 50 fps in the project settings.

The render will be successful: [Source 48fps, Project 50fps, output 48fps]. If I specify 48fps in the project, then the render will be successful, but the file will be broken. And as a programmer, I think this is a bug.

VEGASDerek wrote on 1/28/2021, 5:00 PM

As a programmer, I agree that it is a bug. I'm not sure anyone is disagreeing with you on that. These people are just trying to give you some workarounds right now, so I would hope you would give them a little more respect.

The bug is in our database now and hopefully we can have it resolved in a future update.

fr0sty wrote on 1/28/2021, 7:07 PM

And as a programmer, you should realize that some bugs require the programmer to be able to replicate the issue (which has happened, the team figured out what the bug was), then a patch must be coded up which then must be tested across a wide range of systems to ensure stability, only then can the issue be patched out. In the mean time, it's best to find a workaround, and the beauty of VEGAS, is there are many such workarounds easily possible and often for free. I don't remember if Happy Otter Scripts is still in free Beta or not, but it is a fantastic app to have installed with VEGAS in either case, wwag was offering you a solution that would have worked great, and would have rendered even faster than the built in VEGAS renderer does. Another such solution is using Voukoder, another external renderer that is compatible with VEGAS (it appears as a render template in the VEGAS render menu), and it gives you access to the same encoding stability and power that HOS offers. Both of those solutions would get your project rendered satisfactorily until the team is able to finish testing the fix.

RogerS wrote on 1/28/2021, 7:17 PM
 


We don't know how to make Vegas work with VCE on your system but Voukoder and HOS may do exactly what you want. Vegas sends them raw frames and this software handles the encoding. You don't have to take our advice but at least thank the other posters for it.

This is your first post on the forum and I would say you're not off to a good start.

I want to get proper support, i.e. fix software(vegas) that is not working correctly, but\and not bypassing a feature that MUST WORK as conceived out of the box. I think this problem can happen to anyone because I just reinstalled the system recently and it is fresh

I don’t think I was rude, but sorry, and I just didn’t want the person, with his advertising/messages I didn’t need, to continue to bother me. 
Because I want to SOLVE problem, not bypass, thank you guys 

This is a user peer-to-peer forum, not Magix tech support. We can't fix Vegas.

fr0sty wrote on 1/28/2021, 7:18 PM

^That said, the actual development team (like Derek, the manager of the dev team) does read these posts and does reply to them, and he did use your post to find the source of the issue on his end... but you'll need to give them time to test the fix before they can roll it out. In the mean time, use the workarounds suggested above.

VVV wrote on 1/28/2021, 7:28 PM
This is a user peer-to-peer forum, not Magix tech support. We can't fix Vegas.

I thought that someone already faced such a problem and old school forum users know the solution. For example jump 2 times and remove one letter from project save file 🙃

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^That said, the actual development team (like Derek, the manager of the dev team) does read these posts and does reply to them, and he did use your post to find the source of the issue on his end... but you'll need to give them time to test the fix before they can roll it out. In the mean time, use the workarounds suggested above.

@fr0sty I'm not fool, thank you for this explanation

VVV wrote on 1/28/2021, 7:31 PM

As a programmer, I agree that it is a bug. I'm not sure anyone is disagreeing with you on that. These people are just trying to give you some workarounds right now, so I would hope you would give them a little more respect.

If I wanted to avoid the problem, I think I would find solutions myself(or just ask for it), i.e. workarounds. We Russians think differently, the opposite way(from bad to good). I'm not "disrespect" to anybody.

The bug is in our database now and hopefully we can have it resolved in a future update.

Good to hear that, thank you very much. Should I close this thread?

fr0sty wrote on 1/28/2021, 7:44 PM

Let's leave it open until the fix is released and we can confirm it did work for you. Then you can click the "tag as solution" button next to your post announcing the fix worked.

As for the others, most of us have deadlines we have to meet with our projects, so waiting for the team to find, fix, and test a bugfix isn't something we can wait for. We understand how stressful that can be when you can't get a project out, and it could end up costing you a client. This is why we know many workarounds for getting a project finished even if there is a bug preventing us from doing it the normal way, and that is what many of us have tried sharing with you, in order to help you get your project finished in the mean time between now and when the VEGAS team is able to put an update out that fixes this. We too want to see the bug fixed, but we also want to see your project get finished, so if you have a client waiting on it to be finished, they will not be upset with you for being late.

That is why your demands for people to stop posting their suggestions were seen as rude/disrespectful. They were taking time out of their busy day to try to help you, and you weren't exactly polite about telling them you were not interested in that help... Maybe next time you find yourself in a position like this, you can try saying "Thank you for trying to help me, but I'm more interested in identifying and fixing the problem than finding a workaround." That gets the same point across without offending anybody. Just a suggestion...

VVV wrote on 1/28/2021, 11:57 PM

That is why your demands for people to stop posting their suggestions were seen as rude/disrespectful. They were taking time out of their busy day to try to help you, and you weren't exactly polite about telling them you were not interested in that help... Maybe next time you find yourself in a position like this, you can try saying "Thank you for trying to help me, but I'm more interested in identifying and fixing the problem than finding a workaround." That gets the same point across without offending anybody. Just a suggestion...

This is good advice\suggestion of course, but I am neutral towards him(and anybody), I do not need to be +polite or -rude to him, so I just asked him not to write. The fact that you took it rude is your problem, but I apologized. (sounds rude too :)) )

Let's leave it open until the fix is released and we can confirm it did work for you. Then you can click the "tag as solution" button next to your post announcing the fix worked.

As for the others, most of us have deadlines we have to meet with our projects, so waiting for the team to find, fix, and test a bugfix isn't something we can wait for. We understand how stressful that can be when you can't get a project out, and it could end up costing you a client. This is why we know many workarounds for getting a project finished even if there is a bug preventing us from doing it the normal way, and that is what many of us have tried sharing with you, in order to help you get your project finished in the mean time between now and when the VEGAS team is able to put an update out that fixes this. We too want to see the bug fixed, but we also want to see your project get finished, so if you have a client waiting on it to be finished, they will not be upset with you for being late.

If I had a deadline, the start letter would be completely different 🙃

And for a paid project, if I were a giant like you, I would not use Vegas. With all due respect and how I love it... Even now it is not stable enough, it seems to me that Vegas needs to be rewritten from scratch. 

It slows down and glitches at times, just like a few years ago, when I was on a pentium 4, and not a ryzen as now. Special setup\cfg required(setup: fast hdd, only one 7200rpm laggy | cfg: ram to 0, "opencl\"), you can't just "sit down and drive" like for example premier, idk, whatever... I hope the team lead will get the boss to fork_over(pay) to rewrite Vegas. Until then, Vegas just fades away and it's sad

NickHope wrote on 1/29/2021, 3:58 AM

This is good advice\suggestion of course, but I am neutral towards him(and anybody), I do not need to be +polite or -rude to him, so I just asked him not to write. The fact that you took it rude is your problem, but I apologized. (sounds rude too :)) )

No. You were very rude to him in this comment, and it is absolutely not acceptable to edit a quote from another user in order to insult them (by which I mean your changing of the link text). Additionally, you did not ask him not to write anymore; you ordered him. A "please" goes a long way.

VVV wrote on 1/29/2021, 7:26 PM

No. You were very rude to him in this comment, and it is absolutely not acceptable to edit a quote from another user in order to insult them (by which I mean your changing of the link text). Additionally, you did not ask him not to write anymore; you ordered him. A "please" goes a long way.

Link is not human. And the software he offers has no references on the regular(, not on the underground) Internet. Which speaks for itself: this is "not a good product" 👍

The second message doesn't send him much further, which indicates that I did not order\rude him, but simply did not\forgot to write "please", whatever

RogerS wrote on 1/29/2021, 7:46 PM

Maybe take responsibility for how your words are perceived by the rest of us, apologize, and move on.

fr0sty wrote on 1/30/2021, 2:21 AM

This is good advice\suggestion of course, but I am neutral towards him(and anybody), I do not need to be +polite or -rude to him, so I just asked him not to write. The fact that you took it rude is your problem, but I apologized. (sounds rude too :)) )

The fact that all of us took it as rude is your problem, as you posting here is a privilege, and we have rules against users being rude to each other, so if you do it again, you'll be banned from the community. You don't get to decide if what you say is perceived as rude by others. If you offend someone, the proper thing to do is apologize, learn from the mistake and move on, not cast blame on everyone else.

VVV wrote on 1/30/2021, 7:13 AM

Maybe take responsibility for how your words are perceived by the rest of us, apologize, and move on.

Maybe you reread my message, N ago one, lol

Marco. wrote on 1/31/2021, 7:29 AM

"And the software he offers has no references on the regular(, not on the underground) Internet. Which speaks for itself: this is "not a good product" "

There are hundreds of serious references to Happy Otter Scripts in the internet posted by experienced video editors and wwaag's tools - both the paid version as well as the many free versions - are highly appreciated in the Vegas Pro user community. His tools has proven many times by many users to be one of the most valuable additions to Vegas Pro. It is a good product (so are his free tools). Your response to wwaag's effort to help was just unacceptable. The way you behave won't encourage anyone here to waste time trying to help anymore.

VVV wrote on 1/31/2021, 8:05 AM

@Marco. ok

Paul-Fierlinger wrote on 1/31/2021, 9:22 AM

I am very familiar with this attitude because I had to live under their rule for twenty years. Just strange to see how it still prevails among some of them.