Vegas Pro 18 - VCE Render does not happen properly

VVV wrote on 1/24/2021, 7:18 PM

Hi, a month ago on the old Windows - everything worked fine for me, but I reinstalled Windows on a new ssd. The version and subversion of Windows are exactly the same. Drivers too. Windows 10 Pro 20H2.

 

After setting up windows, installing k lite codec pack, last vegas, ...it does not render video correctly(I haven't tried rendering before installing all, btw). I tried reinstalling codecs, reinstalling vegas to 13 version(with clearing vegas folders in appdata\programdata\program files), reinstalling video card driver(from older to beta, older than was on old win) and cleaning the registry(via ccleaner), but nothing worked for me.

 

As a result, the video turns out to be normal in sound, without the possibility of scrolling in the VLC player, and the MPChc player shows me a video slideshow for 1.37 hours, instead of 2 minutes. And I will say right away that I have a fully technically working computer. Right now I can only render via cpu, but I would like to render via video card, please help me


There is my settings for vce render (project also has 48fps and 1080p, tried to use different sources written by me and not by me.)

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RogerS wrote on 1/24/2021, 9:49 PM

Does VCE support a frame rate of 48fps? Never tried that. Does 24p work?

Under help if you click driver update, does it recommend newer drivers?

j-v wrote on 1/25/2021, 4:41 AM

installing k lite codec pack,

That is the biggest fault you could make because those codecs overwrite all the installed codecs of Vegas.

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VVV wrote on 1/25/2021, 7:11 AM

installing k lite codec pack,

That is the biggest fault you could make because those codecs overwrite all the installed codecs of Vegas.

it usually never hurt my pc or vegas render, what should I do?

VVV wrote on 1/25/2021, 7:16 AM

Does VCE support a frame rate of 48fps? Never tried that.

Yeap, was working 1 month ago

 

Under help if you click driver update, does it recommend newer drivers?

On the old system, I always used beta. When I installed the new system - I installed the recommended video drivers (they are older than they were before on the old system), now I reinstalled the drivers for beta again.

By version was 20, new system 19, now 21 🙃

VVV wrote on 1/25/2021, 7:33 AM

installing k lite codec pack,

That is the biggest fault you could make because those codecs overwrite all the installed codecs of Vegas.

I am not using avi render

 

RogerS wrote on 1/25/2021, 8:07 AM

Does VCE support a frame rate of 48fps? Never tried that.

Yeap, was working 1 month ago

 

Under help if you click driver update, does it recommend newer drivers?

On the old system, I always used beta. When I installed the new system - I installed the recommended video drivers (they are older than they were before on the old system), now I reinstalled the drivers for beta again.

By version was 20, new system 19, now 21 🙃

Can you install the latest Pro or Enterprise drivers for your AMD card? That's more important than beta or not. It should be what Vegas recommends if the card is recognized.

Reyfox wrote on 1/25/2021, 10:21 AM

The footage is from a Panasonic G9 recorded at 50P. Two clips on the timeline with a cross dissolve.

Rendered out with no problems with the card listed in my signature.

I am using the AMD gaming drivers 20.11.2.

The only issue I see is when I monitor VP rendering and Task Manager at the same time, there is a difference with CPU usage.

 

 

 

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VVV wrote on 1/25/2021, 10:59 PM

I completely removed vegas, cleaned all references to it in the `regedit`.

Then removed the k lite codec pack, rebooted, installed vegas, it worked, I rendered 2 projects, then rebooted again and vegas doesn't work again (with same project, which I already rendered fully | No changes in project settings btw). Wtf

 

Rendered 1 second video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19vY1B78vqGFaNlO9J1iyg4zy9t70zQO7/view?usp=sharing

VVV wrote on 1/25/2021, 11:01 PM

Does VCE support a frame rate of 48fps? Never tried that.

Yeap, was working 1 month ago

 

Under help if you click driver update, does it recommend newer drivers?

On the old system, I always used beta. When I installed the new system - I installed the recommended video drivers (they are older than they were before on the old system), now I reinstalled the drivers for beta again.

By version was 20, new system 19, now 21 🙃

Can you install the latest Pro or Enterprise drivers for your AMD card? That's more important than beta or not. It should be what Vegas recommends if the card is recognized.

100% sure it won't help me

RogerS wrote on 1/25/2021, 11:05 PM

Does VCE support a frame rate of 48fps? Never tried that.

Yeap, was working 1 month ago

 

Under help if you click driver update, does it recommend newer drivers?

On the old system, I always used beta. When I installed the new system - I installed the recommended video drivers (they are older than they were before on the old system), now I reinstalled the drivers for beta again.

By version was 20, new system 19, now 21 🙃

Can you install the latest Pro or Enterprise drivers for your AMD card? That's more important than beta or not. It should be what Vegas recommends if the card is recognized.

100% sure it won't help me


You don't know that until you test it. What do you have to lose?

Still, if rendering sometimes works this is baffling. What's the difference? Maybe do a support request to Magix. I don't have an AMD card and can't do a similar test for you.

VVV wrote on 1/25/2021, 11:49 PM

Still, if rendering sometimes works this is baffling. What's the difference? Maybe do a support request to Magix. I don't have an AMD card and can't do a similar test for you.

No "sometimes", the rendering only worked when I reinstalled the program, and it worked well before I rebooted pc

What test? Install special drivers which I don't need?

VVV wrote on 1/26/2021, 12:26 AM

Does VCE support a frame rate of 48fps?

lmao, it always worked, but now if the project is set to 48fps and it is rendered incorrectly with 48fps vce. If I put 50 frames for a PROJECT, not a render, then everything works.

Looks like a bug

RogerS wrote on 1/26/2021, 1:56 AM

Still, if rendering sometimes works this is baffling. What's the difference? Maybe do a support request to Magix. I don't have an AMD card and can't do a similar test for you.

No "sometimes", the rendering only worked when I reinstalled the program, and it worked well before I rebooted pc

What test? Install special drivers which I don't need?

Yes, install special drivers intended for editing which you may need.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-pro-software

I'd suggest filing a support request unless a developer comments on this thread.

VVV wrote on 1/26/2021, 12:09 PM

Yes, install special drivers intended for editing which you may need.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-pro-software

Installed, rebooted, 48 48 48 (source, project settings, render) does not render as before, only 48 50 48 or else working. So, just timewaste 🙃

I'd suggest filing a support request unless a developer comments on this thread.

I wrote to the dev support, added this thread to the description, 2-4 days

wwaag wrote on 1/26/2021, 5:46 PM

You can easily render at 48fps using the RenderPlus tool in HappyOtterScripts. Here's a screen grab of a VCE render from 23.976 source material.

An advantage of HOS is that you can render any frame size or frame rate (so long as it is support by VCE). You can find more info at https://tools4vegas.com/

AKA the HappyOtter at https://tools4vegas.com/. System 1: Intel i7-8700k with HD 630 graphics plus an Nvidia RTX4070 graphics card. System 2: Intel i7-3770k with HD 4000 graphics plus an AMD RX550 graphics card. System 3: Laptop. Dell Inspiron Plus 16. Intel i7-11800H, Intel Graphics. Current cameras include Panasonic FZ2500, GoPro Hero11 and Hero8 Black plus a myriad of smartPhone, pocket cameras, video cameras and film cameras going back to the original Nikon S.

wwaag wrote on 1/26/2021, 5:50 PM

Apparently, the image upload is not working today (2nd time). Here's a dropbox link. https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwa78z7i4ticroa/vce48fps.png?dl=0

AKA the HappyOtter at https://tools4vegas.com/. System 1: Intel i7-8700k with HD 630 graphics plus an Nvidia RTX4070 graphics card. System 2: Intel i7-3770k with HD 4000 graphics plus an AMD RX550 graphics card. System 3: Laptop. Dell Inspiron Plus 16. Intel i7-11800H, Intel Graphics. Current cameras include Panasonic FZ2500, GoPro Hero11 and Hero8 Black plus a myriad of smartPhone, pocket cameras, video cameras and film cameras going back to the original Nikon S.

VVV wrote on 1/27/2021, 3:21 PM

You can easily render at 48fps using the RenderPlus tool in HappyOtterScripts. Here's a screen grab of a VCE render from 23.976 source material.

An advantage of HOS is that you can render any frame size or frame rate (so long as it is support by VCE). You can find more info at https://craps4vegas.com/

Vegas render suits me perfectly, your stuff, which transmits the image through a teleconference and three girls and one cup bridge - does not interest to me, do not write here anymore.

wwaag wrote on 1/27/2021, 4:06 PM

Sorry for offending you. I was only trying to be helpful in response to a problem you reported.

If indeed "Vegas render suits me perfectly", you wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.

Since you don't like software that "transmits the image through a teleconference and three girls and one cup bridge" you could also try Voukoder, although I don't know if it supports VCE encoding.

 

AKA the HappyOtter at https://tools4vegas.com/. System 1: Intel i7-8700k with HD 630 graphics plus an Nvidia RTX4070 graphics card. System 2: Intel i7-3770k with HD 4000 graphics plus an AMD RX550 graphics card. System 3: Laptop. Dell Inspiron Plus 16. Intel i7-11800H, Intel Graphics. Current cameras include Panasonic FZ2500, GoPro Hero11 and Hero8 Black plus a myriad of smartPhone, pocket cameras, video cameras and film cameras going back to the original Nikon S.

VVV wrote on 1/28/2021, 4:13 AM

Sorry for offending you. I was only trying to be helpful in response to a problem you reported.

If indeed "Vegas render suits me perfectly", you wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.

Since you don't like software that "transmits the image through a teleconference and three girls and one cup bridge" you could also try Voukoder, although I don't know if it supports VCE encoding.

 

1. You did not understand the problem.
2. You didn't get(offended) me.
3. You have already been asked not to write here anymore.

Reyfox wrote on 1/28/2021, 4:47 AM

Wow.... talk about hostility. With responses like that, no one will reply to you.

Guessing you've never read this:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/respecting-fellow-community-members--118348/

@NickHope ?

 

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walter-i. wrote on 1/28/2021, 5:26 AM

1. You did not understand the problem.
2. You didn't get(offended) me.
3. You have already been asked not to write here anymore.

@VVV
Good luck in your further life - with this attitude towards helpers who try to help you in their free time!

RogerS wrote on 1/28/2021, 5:32 AM

Sorry for offending you. I was only trying to be helpful in response to a problem you reported.

If indeed "Vegas render suits me perfectly", you wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.

Since you don't like software that "transmits the image through a teleconference and three girls and one cup bridge" you could also try Voukoder, although I don't know if it supports VCE encoding.

 

1. You did not understand the problem.
2. You didn't get(offended) me.
3. You have already been asked not to write here anymore.

Honestly you shouldn't treat people poorly who are providing good advice which directly deals with your problem.

We don't know how to make Vegas work with VCE on your system but Voukoder and HOS may do exactly what you want. Vegas sends them raw frames and this software handles the encoding. You don't have to take our advice but at least thank the other posters for it.

This is your first post on the forum and I would say you're not off to a good start.

NickHope wrote on 1/28/2021, 9:52 AM

Wow.... talk about hostility. With responses like that, no one will reply to you.

Guessing you've never read this:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/respecting-fellow-community-members--118348/

@NickHope ?

@Reyfox Warning sent by PM. Thanks

VVV wrote on 1/28/2021, 3:45 PM

Sorry for offending you. I was only trying to be helpful in response to a problem you reported.

If indeed "Vegas render suits me perfectly", you wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.

Since you don't like software that "transmits the image through a teleconference and three girls and one cup bridge" you could also try Voukoder, although I don't know if it supports VCE encoding.

 

1. You did not understand the problem.
2. You didn't get(offended) me.
3. You have already been asked not to write here anymore.

Honestly you shouldn't treat people poorly who are providing good advice which directly deals with your problem.

We don't know how to make Vegas work with VCE on your system but Voukoder and HOS may do exactly what you want. Vegas sends them raw frames and this software handles the encoding. You don't have to take our advice but at least thank the other posters for it.

This is your first post on the forum and I would say you're not off to a good start.

I want to get proper support, i.e. fix software(vegas) that is not working correctly, but\and not bypassing a feature that MUST WORK as conceived out of the box. I think this problem can happen to anyone because I just reinstalled the system recently and it is fresh

I don’t think I was rude, but sorry, and I just didn’t want the person, with his advertising/messages I didn’t need, to continue to bother me. 
Because I want to SOLVE problem, not bypass, thank you guys