I'm back to editing, and so far, no issues. I am at the moment using a lot of Boris Continuum, and so far, so good.

I still have Build 403 installation to fall back on if things go "south". But at the moment, even using Boris, timeline playback "seems" to be smoother.

I've been looking for the release notes? not sure where to look tho,

I've been playing with Smart mask, there's been no change there,

This advert annoys me a little because I would like this to work, I understand It does say "to a video frame" & there's a BETA symbol at the end but I still think this advert is verging on false advertising,

With a normal event there's no way of adding masks to each frame without manually manipulating the orig mask on each frame (I can't get Animate curve in Bezier mask to work, it just fills the timeline with keyframes as you drag the cursor)

If you split an event into single frames & then add Smart mask to each event the Analyse button only works on the first event,

& if you render as image sequence - import that sequence & add Smart mask to each separate event you can then Analyse & add a mask, but that'd be a pain, I got to 20frames before turning it off.

@Former user I haven't even attempted to use that feature yet since it's beta and I don't want to be disappointed. But you aren't the first to mention this. And also I would like to know how they did it in the advert. It's a tease for sure. Maybe, in VP21 it will be better fleshed out...

@Former user  ...

I've been looking for the release notes? not sure where to look tho,

And the download was really fast - a couple of minutes rather than a couple of hours.

Download went smooth, about 30 secs.

Will check "my" VST audio-bugs (one and two) in this release and update the findings here.

Smart mask just does a single frame at this point.

What I'm most interested in with this build are fixes to the VST engine. Look forward to testing that out!

The other quality of life improvements (drag & drop, etc.) are also welcome.

@Former user  ...

I've been looking for the release notes? not sure where to look tho,

 

And the download was really fast - a couple of minutes rather than a couple of hours.

@Dexcon Thanks I updated without looking at that, & now I don't have the option to look because yeah it was quick & painless,

The online 'What's new' -

VEGAS 20 Update 3

Edit fast with Multiple Smart Masks & more

Update 3 is here with new multiple smart masks, transfer text properties, and further enhancements to elevate your overall editing experience

That isn't new so I'm guessing update 3 was the last update not this one, (reading that is why i checked out Smart masks)

The list is here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-20-build-411--141366/

@Reyfox Yeah def a tease, but too much teasing results in lost teeth 🙊

@Former user, read HERE to see what was updated.

Looks like @RogerS beat me to it.

But yes, looking at the advert, one would think that it is possible with the version of Vegas they are showing this in. I guess we'll find out in the future. But I don't think it was fair showing it as if it is working in the "here and now", and is a reason to buy Vegas.

@RogerS @Reyfox Thanks, VST 🥱😁, One thing i would like one day is the Search in the Video FX window to find the presets, at the moment I have to scroll down through all fxs to fill some kind of cache, then search finds the presets.

You were writing as i was 👍

Beta should be kept in the beta version for the beta testers until it's ready for release,

Every mask is far from perfect so needs adjusting & the points are all bezier but tiny even when zoomed in so i end up grabbing a bezier handle instead of the central point when wanting to move that point.

Yeah it would be interesting to know how they made the video, perhaps they'd like to share & how long did they spend adjusting the masks on that very short clip?

Update - most VST related bugs are still there, making Vegas impossible to use for audio professionals / enthousiasts.

Got two crashes and one freeze in less than five minutes, only by fiddling around with some very basic VST-2 plug-ins (Melda and Isotope).

GUI is still extreme sluggish when changing parameters and undo's are now also saved even when set to "off" in preferences (but they do save less undo's, yeah party 🥳 😢).

Also when you undo a VST-change, the whole GUI is redrawn every freaking single time you "undo', causing flickering white screens and delays.

And undoing some undo's results in the same crashing Vegas as always - it just freezes and crashes.

Reverting back to 370 which works "good" without all this shit.

Gone finish this project, will take me about three more years, and than I'm gone.

Thanks, but not thanks.

 

Also when you undo a VST-change, the whole GUI is redrawn every freaking single time you "undo', causing flickering white screens and delays.

And undoing some undo's results in the same crashing Vegas as always - it just freezes and crashes.

@Petersson Yep I've had crashes when just undoing & I've seen the redraw of the UI, 😒

 

Also when you undo a VST-change, the whole GUI is redrawn every freaking single time you "undo', causing flickering white screens and delays.

And undoing some undo's results in the same crashing Vegas as always - it just freezes and crashes.

@Petersson Yep I've had crashes when just undoing & I've seen the redraw of the UI, 😒

I have made another bug report here;

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/bug-vst-becomes-slow-if-attached-to-envelope-vegas-20-401-411--141369/

It is the exact same bug since build 401, but nothing did change in 411.

I am reverting back to 370, that also sucks but is workable.

 

Also when you undo a VST-change, the whole GUI is redrawn every freaking single time you "undo', causing flickering white screens and delays.

And undoing some undo's results in the same crashing Vegas as always - it just freezes and crashes.

@Petersson Yep I've had crashes when just undoing & I've seen the redraw of the UI, 😒

@Former user When a plugin offers to "undo" from inside the plugin itself, the undo is smooth.

But when you "undo" from Vegas (as the client), the complete plugin is redrawn every single time you undo.

It's like it is resetting to another save-state, and not simply undoing the last parameter.

It causes the screen to flicker, throw white frames, plugin GUI is drawn half and than finally the undo is done.

Or Vegas hangs.

@Petersson Would you try something, 3840x2160 UHD 30p project, nothing on the timeline, Add a video track, Add an Empty event, drag to length = crash?

I need to clean & restart my PC, I'll be back later,

@Petersson Would you try something, 3840x2160 UHD 30p project, nothing on the timeline, Add a video track, Add an Empty event, drag to length = crash?

I need to clean & restart my PC, I'll be back later,

@Former user

1. I am back to build 370
2. Create 3840x2160 UHD 30p project
3. Add video track
4. Add empty event
5. Drag event to length
6. No crash

I just dragged the event from 1 second to 30 secs and back, but it didn't crash.

Notice : I primarily use Vegas as a DAW, like it started years back.

I have license's for Vegas 3.0 till 20.0 so I am a die hard user, but only as my audio editing tool (timeline wise).

Just check out my system crashes / reports regarding to Vegas (for about one hour).

Source :

Control Panel\System and Security\Security and Maintenance\Reliability Monitor

Am only using it because I have to, not because I want to.

@Petersson Thanks, I sort of worked it out, I reset Vegas, cleaned & restarted PC, etc,

Vegas started in Default layout,

1. Create 3840x2160 UHD 30p project
2. Add video track
3. Add empty event
4. Drag event to length
5. No crash 👍

View - Organise Layouts put my saved layout back on

1. Create 3840x2160 UHD 30p project
2. Add video track
3. Add empty event
4. Drag event to length
5. Crash 😒

Delete my layout & revert back to Default layout, add empty event, no crash,

So rebuild my layout moving windows around back to how i like them,

Add empty event, Crash 😡🤬

I'm going to start a new post ,

My preferred layout -

My Post serial number doesn't work after this new update. I can use my old Pro number, but then I'm afraid losing some functionality. Will I?