Vegas rendering fast on the laptop but very slow on better desktop

Filyps wrote on 1/28/2024, 3:17 PM

Hello,

I just moved to new desktop computer, which is:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700KF 
64 GB RAM
RTX 4070 Super

My laptop is:
AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX
64 GB RAM
RTX 3080

And rendering basic project takes forever on the desktop.
It's basic video 2560x1440 with few text titles and few transitions and rendering 1.5 minute video takes 8 minutes!
On the laptop it's rendered faster than video duration.

The preview is also pretty slow on the desktop, it's not super laggy, but still slow.
I tried rendering with AVC/AAC MP4 NVENC
and HEVC/AAC
but there is not difference!

My preferences settings are all default (fresh install of Vegas 19 - same version as on the notebook)
And under Preferences -> Video I have selected "Optimal - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070"

What can I do to make software work faster?
It's super bad right now.
 

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j-v wrote on 1/28/2024, 3:23 PM

Can you show the result of Help/Check for Driver Updates on the desktop ?

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 1/28/2024, 3:49 PM

@Filyps You laptop is probably seeing and using both the 3080 gpu and the 680M gpu... I would guess optimal setup in Vegas would be to select the 3080 in video prefs as the main gpu and the 680M in i/o prefs for decoding. That would require that both Nvidia & Amd drivers be installed. Look and see.

A similar optimal config for the desktop would be to configure Vegas to use the 3070 as the main gpu as well as in i/o prefs. Unfortunately the 14700KF has no igpu making it less powerful than the 14700K would be for editing video. I think those 2 cpus fit the same socket so switching might be the most economical way to fix the situation. If you did that and installed Intel graphics drivers, you could set Vegas to use the uhd770 igpu in i/o prefs which should make a tremendous difference.

Filyps wrote on 1/28/2024, 4:25 PM

Can you show the result of Help/Check for Driver Updates on the desktop ?

I checked and everything is up to date. I also checked it with ccleaner and it detected only things like wireless and few detail drivers updates.

Filyps wrote on 1/28/2024, 4:30 PM

@Filyps You laptop is probably seeing and using both the 3080 gpu and the 680M gpu... I would guess optimal setup in Vegas would be to select the 3080 in video prefs as the main gpu and the 680M in i/o prefs for decoding. That would require that both Nvidia & Amd drivers be installed. Look and see.

A similar optimal config for the desktop would be to configure Vegas to use the 3070 as the main gpu as well as in i/o prefs. Unfortunately the 14700KF has no igpu making it less powerful than the 14700K would be for editing video. I think those 2 cpus fit the same socket so switching might be the most economical way to fix the situation. If you did that and installed Intel graphics drivers, you could set Vegas to use the uhd770 igpu in i/o prefs which should make a tremendous difference.

Maybe I didn't write clear, but I don't use the notebook anymore. I am not sure what 680M and 3070 refers to.
How could I switch them? I only see the "Optimal - 4070" option in vegas and I can't install graphics drivers for intel core i7 (it displays error that no gear for the drivers was found)
 

Filyps wrote on 1/28/2024, 4:31 PM

Thank you for investigating.
I started thinking that it's because vegas 19 is not supporting this GPU but I just tried rendering project on Vegas 21 trial and it is still the same.

RogerS wrote on 1/28/2024, 7:39 PM

Try the benchmarks in my signature and see how they compare to other users with similar hardware.

He meant 4070 not 3070 for your desktop.
Your KF CPU has no Intel iGPU- he was suggesting selling your CPU and getting a K one which does have an iGPU.
The AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX has a Radeon 680M integrated GPU.

Filyps wrote on 1/29/2024, 3:18 AM

Try the benchmarks in my signature and see how they compare to other users with similar hardware.

He meant 4070 not 3070 for your desktop.
Your KF CPU has no Intel iGPU- he was suggesting selling your CPU and getting a K one which does have an iGPU.
The AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX has a Radeon 680M integrated GPU.

I tried the benchmark and it took 1m 08sec to render the 4k sample (with the same settings as in the instructions)
Oh, what a failure, KF and K is difference of a few dolars .
This gear is fresh buy, I would like to avoid changing it. So the Vegas is not using the nvidia gpu at all?

RogerS wrote on 1/29/2024, 3:29 AM

Your results are totally fine. You are about #31 for UHD renders and your preview framerate (16) confirms that it is using the NVIDIA GPU.

If you put dynamic ram preview back to the default you'd likely score significantly better. 0 can kill performance; the only reason to set it to that is if you see render glitches (which VP 19 fixed to a good extent).

The K vs non-K is beneficial with some media as Intel decoding is quite good. The media this project uses is basic AVC so there isn't likely much difference between QSV and NVDEC here. If you find yourself using a lot of media that Intel excels at (say HEVC 10-bit 4:2:2) you could add the cheapest ARC card and use it for decoding with the NVIDIA doing the timeline and Fx. Either can do rendering (encoding).

Filyps wrote on 1/29/2024, 4:00 AM

Thank you for clarification.

Well it turned out that the big render time difference is result of adding the new animated text patterns (I replaced old text patters with new one when I moved project to the desktop) I didn't expect this media generators to be so heavy, it's just a second of animation and then still text, but it seems it's consuming a lot of render time.
 

RogerS wrote on 1/29/2024, 5:20 AM

Thanks for doing the benchmark- it helps diagnose what is going on. I suggest keeping it on your system and you can test new versions of VEGAS and new drivers, etc. to see if everything is working as expected.

With VEGAS Pro text and motion for some reason is processing intensive. I'm not sure why either and there seems to be room for optimization here.