Video Card Upgrade?

Videoimpressions0622 wrote on 10/25/2020, 11:32 AM

With respect to VP 18 Pro and my particular hardware setup, Magix hinted that a 1660 card may help me. So I have had my eye on the ASUS GeForce GTX 1660 Super Overclocked 6GB Dual-fan EVO Edition VR Ready HDMI DisplayPort DVI Graphics Card (DUAL-GTX1660S-O6G-EVO) on Newegg (currently $10 off) for $239. This has the outputs I need (a DVI and an HDMI port). My research shows that the "Super" version has the most bang for the buck!

So what do you who are in the know think/suggest/advise? I otherwise do not yet need to upgrade my PC and feel that if this is a wise move I should act upon it and at least get several more years use out of my current PC that works fine on everything else that I run.

Thanks in advance!

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j-v wrote on 10/25/2020, 11:59 AM

For wich task you think you need that card in VPro 18?

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andyrpsmith wrote on 10/25/2020, 12:10 PM

It's an OK card, 3d mark 6105, a GTX 1080 is 7543, 1080Ti is 9930, a 2070 super is 10130. Its about the best there is at that price point. V18 will use to accelerate timeline performance and use about 20% of its capability to decode. I use a 1080Ti and I can use preview at Best quarter for 4K and it will not drop frames for fades and most other transitions & stabilization on clips.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/25/2020, 12:17 PM

Been wanting that card myself. But to add a separate decoding gpu to a couple of my machines that have no igpu onboard. It has the Nvidia VP11 asic which is used for decoding and was their top of the line decoder till VP11 was introduced for their new 3000-series boards. Ordered mine on Amazon 10 days ago for $208 but it still hasn't shipped even though they claim to have many in stock... prime just isn't what it used to be. If it's not shipped Mon, I'm going to cancel and order from B&H for the same price as Newegg. Btw, the 2-fan and 3-fan Asus versions have higher clock rates but no one seems to have them in stock.

Videoimpressions0622 wrote on 10/25/2020, 5:03 PM

Which card did you order from Amazon for $208, as the cheapest I have seen the ASUS GeForce GTX 1660 Super Overclocked 6GB Dual-fan EVO Edition VR Ready HDMI DisplayPort DVI Graphics Card (DUAL-GTX1660S-O6G-EVO) is the $239.99 in stock at Newegg (unless I missed something in the last two weeks)? The only in-stock ASUS 1660 Super in stock at B&H is the ASUS Phoenix GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER OC Graphics Card (single fan) for $229.99. I'd like to know if this is to what you are referring. At Amazon this card is $349.90!!

TheRhino wrote on 10/25/2020, 11:04 PM

If you have a good power supply, a used $200 Vega 56/64 will outperform a $200+ GTX 1660 Super - more in the range of a $400 RX 5700XT... We have a $350 VEGA 64 LQ, $200 (used) VEGA 56 flashed to a 64..., ($330+) RTX 2060, and ($250+) GTX 1660ti... Their V18, Flight Simulator 2020, etc. performance is in that order... The 1660 Super would be even slower than the 1660ti.

The old VEGAs have more cores & compute capability than the newer MID-range cards... You can undervolt the VEGAs & when they are not utilized for rendering, gaming, etc. their power draw is not excessive... Gamers have been dumping them on eBay since the new GPUs emerged... My 9900K VEGA 64 LQ allows me to background render (5) open instances of V18 while editing a 6th instance in the foreground with good preview fps, etc.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/25/2020, 11:21 PM

Which card did you order from Amazon for $208

@Videoimpressions0622 It's the single fan version... looks like it's gone up by a couple of dollars since this morning and they've lowered the the amount in stock. But mine is still not yet shipped.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PHWBHHX/

Videoimpressions0622 wrote on 10/26/2020, 9:51 AM

I am a bit confused. The card that you ordered from Amazon is NOT the card about which I am inquiring. I am looking at the "SUPER" card whereas you apparently bought the standard overclocked version. I just wanted to bring this to your attention. Are you aware of that? Also, I noticed on the Amazon web site that if you hover over the photos of the card (on the left side of the screen) there is text in an Asian language (looks like Japanese or Chinese to me, but what do I know?). Perhaps the delay in your shipment is that although it is fulfilled by Amazon perhaps they are waiting for a shipment from overseas. Just a thought. Nevertheless, I hope that you are expecting what you believe you are expecting and if not can get it straightened out expeditiously.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 10/26/2020, 12:30 PM

Those cards are all the same internally but with different fan setups and maximum clock rates. The one feature I like with the Asus Phoenix and Tuf versions is that they all have low noise, long-life ball bearing fans with the dual and tipple fan versions being quieter and able to run at higher clocks. There is one more expensive version of the 1660 with a larger number cudas but that isn't a feature I'd need as they're not used for decoding which is my intended application. The clock rate differences might be important... hard to know for sure without benching a few different versions. Decoding may not be as power hungry as full spectrum usage so I might be able to overclock them beyond specs anyway. Power draw is a very important issue for me since this will be a 2nd gpu. I selected the 1660 because of it's relatively low power draw and the fact that the VP10 decoding asic is identical to that in the 2080's which draw much more. And the VP11 asics are only in the 3000-series which draw 100w more than the 2080s. The target system I have for this is my xeon which has a power efficient 5700xt and an 850 watt power supply. I'll also see if it'll run in an older i7 980x system with the same power supply but a higher draw Vega64. If all works out favorably, I'll probably get a 2nd one for the other system and perhaps spring for a faster clock version. Assuming the Intel Xe is still missing in action or too expensive. As I don't know anyone whose benchmarked this idea yet, I regard it as a gamble and I'm going for the lowest cost for proof of concept. Fwiw, stock on Amazon has jumped from 1 to 19 today, mine is projected for delivery this Sat, but it still has not shipped.