VP18 - Love Handles - Love 'em!

Grazie wrote on 8/4/2020, 12:17 AM

No more fiddling and faffing around at the Event Edges, trying to Grip the Event's Start or Finish - we now have these:

How many years has this taken? Well done Team-Vegas!

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/4/2020, 12:42 AM

Yes Grazie, that new feature opened my eyes when i first saw it, Love handles indeed, small but so handy i tell you....

john_dennis wrote on 8/4/2020, 3:26 AM

I'm not seeing it, but it looks great.

pierre-k wrote on 8/4/2020, 3:40 AM

this feature is taken from V17 Movie studio.

NickHope wrote on 8/4/2020, 4:18 AM

I'm wondering what the handles provide that wouldn't be more simply and elegantly provided by a redesigned trim cursor (when hovering over event edges). Have I missed something? On a related note, I preferred the pre-VP16-style trim cursor to the one in VP16-18. It was more obvious which side of "the join" you were over.

fred-w wrote on 8/4/2020, 4:32 AM

No more fiddling and faffing around at the Event Edges, trying to Grip the Event's Start or Finish - we now have these:

How many years has this taken? Well done Team-Vegas!

U can thank ME!!! I kept harping about UI niggling frustrations;

Note to Gary: that is a START, it will sell you more programs than Piccasso emulations,

(OK, I don't know if I'm as big a thorn in Gary's side as I say, [he said he was listening to 'us'] but dammit, this is what brings the program down, day to day small stuff, e.g.: love handles MIA)......

So YES to the UI improvements, big UPS!!

Grazie wrote on 8/4/2020, 4:32 AM

I'm wondering what the handles provide that wouldn't be more simply and elegantly provided by a redesigned trim cursor (when hovering over event edges).

@NickHope - O...K... Nick, you’re wondering. I can’t help you there 😉

Have I missed something?

@NickHope - Yes, the Art Deco look is great for me. But there again, I’ve never been accused as being “elegant”.

On a related note, I preferred the pre-VP16-style trim cursor to the one in VP16-18. It was more obvious which side of "the join" you were over.

@NickHope - Nope, not for me. It was just so twitchy and often I’d grab A and not B and then grab B and not A.

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Jack S wrote on 8/4/2020, 4:39 AM

I believe these were introduced in the days of the 'touch screen' interface and were ditched in the version after that.
I'm glad they have been re-introduced.

NickHope wrote on 8/4/2020, 4:56 AM

I've noticed that turning them on makes the "target zone" wider (for the whole height of the event), which generally reduces fiddliness. But the target zone could have been widened without adding the handles. I suppose the handles are useful in showing you what to aim at.

Grazie wrote on 8/4/2020, 5:04 AM

I've noticed that turning them on makes the "target zone" wider (for the whole height of the event), which generally reduces fiddliness.

@NickHope - Righto.

But the target zone could have been widened without adding the handles. I suppose the handles are useful in showing you what to aim at.

@NickHope - Yes.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/4/2020, 6:35 AM

NickHope, i am surprised you haven't found this somewhat useful or at least better than its previous implementation!

aboammar wrote on 8/5/2020, 8:59 PM

No more fiddling and faffing around at the Event Edges, trying to Grip the Event's Start or Finish - we now have these:

How many years has this taken? Well done Team-Vegas!


@Grazie  Any idea why this new handle is not showing? Do I have to enable it from somewhere?

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Grazie wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:35 PM

Look in the Event Hamburger.

@EricLNZ - Lol! My type of Hamburger IS an Event 😏 Anyways, EH doesn't Control those Looove Handles. Just checked ALL OFF and then ALL ON, don't make a difference.

@aboammar - All I need to do is roll onto the Event and they are revealed.

adimatis wrote on 8/6/2020, 4:20 AM

love them too! :)

aboammar wrote on 8/6/2020, 9:19 PM

Look in the Event Hamburger.

@EricLNZ Got it .. Thanks.

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Grazie wrote on 8/6/2020, 11:42 PM

Look in the Event Hamburger.

@EricLNZ Got it .. Thanks.

@aboammar - What did you find? Read my post above.

pierre-k wrote on 8/7/2020, 3:07 AM

Such useful features should be active automatically when you first start Vegas. I agree that it was enough to expand the area at the edges of the events without showing the paws.

Conclusion: I'm glad it exists. Now I'm calmer when editing.

pierre-k wrote on 8/7/2020, 4:49 AM

suggestion for a change......

Turn this feature on permanently. I believe that we all want to easily grasp the right side of the event. Or not?

If the user wants to see the paws, let him turn them on as it is now.

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This discussion clearly shows that users are much happier to see similar innovations that make work easier. There are no other similar ones in this version. And that's a pity.

Rest assured that once the team implements the "right-click bulk event selection" feature, you won't be talking about anything else all year.😹

Demonstration of perfect happiness !!!

VEGASDerek wrote on 8/7/2020, 7:31 AM

This feature was added as part of VEGAS Movie Studio 17 (being brought back to life after their brief appearance in VMS 13). We were debating on whether to add it to VP 18 or not as we felt that VP users might find the handles a bit annoying. The decision was made to add them but to leave them off by default for now. We will see what the overall reaction to them was and if it is positive, we may turn them on by default in a future version.

Thank you for the feedback. It is somewhat surprising that such a small feature that I spent about an hour to work on gets this much attention.

pierre-k wrote on 8/7/2020, 7:43 AM

Thank you for the feedback. It is somewhat surprising that such a small feature that I spent about an hour to work on gets this much attention.

The answer is simple. They make editing easier. More such please.

adimatis wrote on 8/7/2020, 10:08 AM

@VEGASDerek Thank you for it - yes, it is very useful and something I also asked for long ago. Definitely worth having!

I think next - hopefully easy to add - feature that would get basically everyone's attention could be right click + drag to select events.

I always thought these two would improve workflow very much and would be appreciated by most. So far we have 50% done! :)

aboammar wrote on 8/7/2020, 11:55 AM

Look in the Event Hamburger.

@EricLNZ Got it .. Thanks.

@aboammar - What did you find? Read my post above.

@EricLNZ told me how to enable the Event Handle and that's from the Event Hamburger. Rolling onto the Event as you suggested did not reveal the handle because this new feature is not enabled by default.

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Grazie wrote on 8/7/2020, 12:08 PM

@EricLNZ told me how to enable the Event Handle and that's from the Event Hamburger.

@aboammar - Yes I read that.

Rolling onto the Event as you suggested did not reveal the handle because this new feature is not enabled by default.
 

@aboammar - Well, it has for me and I went and tested Hamburger all OFF and then ON, made no difference. The control for this is called what in Hamburger?

aboammar wrote on 8/7/2020, 12:31 PM

@EricLNZ told me how to enable the Event Handle and that's from the Event Hamburger.

@aboammar - Yes I read that.

Rolling onto the Event as you suggested did not reveal the handle because this new feature is not enabled by default.
 

@aboammar - Well, it has for me and I went and tested Hamburger all OFF and then ON, made no difference. The control for this is called what in Hamburger?


@Grazie Strange that is turned on by default in your case because even @VEGASDerek said it is turned off by default! And turning it on and off from the Event Hamburger dose work in my case.

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