VP18? To Buy Now or not to Buy Now

xberk wrote on 8/10/2020, 2:53 PM

I'm sure at some point I'll want to update to VP18 .. Is SpectraLayers Pro 7 that comes bundled worthwhile enough to buy NOW?

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/10/2020, 3:03 PM

Buy Now. lol

aboammar wrote on 8/10/2020, 7:51 PM

@xberk  Just by going through the forum, I see many V18 users are having all kinds or problems, however if you decide to upgrade, first test the trail version on your system, to know what you are getting into, and to make sure you are happy with it.

For me, and after trying V18, I decided to wait for V19.

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3d87c4 wrote on 8/10/2020, 8:05 PM

The upgrade price is about as good as you can expect...'til they offer the 'buy V18 get V19 free' deal in a year or so.

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aboammar wrote on 8/10/2020, 8:13 PM

The upgrade price is about as good as you can expect...'til they offer the 'buy V18 get V19 free' deal in a year or so.


@3d87c4 Well, the upgrade price is as "high" as expected! The upgrade price will be the same whatever you buy now or after 6 months! 😉

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Dexcon wrote on 8/10/2020, 8:24 PM

@xberk ... Re SpectraLayers Pro. I've been using SLP from its first release, and I recently got SLP7 as part of the Vegas Pro 18 offer which, of course ends 12 August.

SLP has matured considerably since version 1, and I find it indispensable for cleaning up background camera audio recorded outdoors. For instance, removing or reducing hum from nearby machinery or power pole buzz, clicks and bumps, reducing the volume of or eliminating annoying unwanted voices, eliminating minor to mild wind noise. The main tool I use in SLP is the Clone Stamp tool which is effectively a copy/paste of a selected frequency/time range where you can copy a clean frq/time area and paste it over an 'offending' area of the same size. RX7 can do much the same thing, but I find SLP to be easier to use - maybe I'm just more used to SLP in this regard. But SLP does way more. If you haven't done so already, check out SLP7 at:

https://new.steinberg.net/spectralayers/

If you could do with something like SLP, then this is the perfect time to get it (its effectively free) especially if you plan to upgrade to VP18 at some time in the future. Of course, you don't have to use VP18 straight away but keep it for the future when updates hopefully address the problems some others are experiencing.

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3d87c4 wrote on 8/10/2020, 9:01 PM

The upgrade price is about as good as you can expect...'til they offer the 'buy V18 get V19 free' deal in a year or so.


@3d87c4 Well, the upgrade price is as "high" as expected! The upgrade price will be the same whatever you buy now or after 6 months! 😉

LOL...I fall for that every year... ;)

 

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/10/2020, 9:04 PM

The upgrade price is about as good as you can expect...'til they offer the 'buy V18 get V19 free' deal in a year or so.

The buy-now page says the upgrade offer is "Valid until August 11, 2020". Already did it myself but if they still had a buy 17 get 18 free, I'd do that too.

fifonik wrote on 8/10/2020, 9:22 PM

If you check the price watch thread you will notice that they have offers all the time.

Sure, different plugins are bundled in different offers so if one is particular interested in the SpectraLayers Pro included in current offer -- it would be good idea to buy it now.

However, quite often bundled plugins are tied to exact version of VP and may stop to work in the following version. This is the reason I never looking at bundled plugins.

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xberk wrote on 8/10/2020, 9:36 PM

Thanks guys .. I do use Izotope Nectar Elements and RX5 De-Clip, De-Click, De-Hum and Dialogue De-Noise (use that the most) .. So if SpectraLayers can improve on those, looks like now is the time to buy ..

>> Clone Stamp tool which is effectively a copy/paste of a selected frequency/time range where you can copy a clean frq/time area and paste it over an 'offending' area of the same size. ..

That Clone stamp sounds like something I would use ...

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Dexcon wrote on 8/10/2020, 11:25 PM

@xberk

As it doesn't look as though there is a trial version of SLP, I thought that I'd show just one of the advantages that I find with the program.

The following is camera audio taken on a river:

You can see the wind noise intensity below 200Hz. Between 2.5" and 2.8", the bg wind noise is low, and the rectangle covering that area (size decided by the top task bar - including square or round shape, strength and hardness) is the area chosen using Pick Source in the task bar. Then, moving the rectangle to right or left, you can paste the 'quiet' area over another area, such as:

I would then select that new wider area of low wind noise and copy/paste the next section to the right - and later to the left.

There are sometimes quirks to using this tool but I quickly got used to. And one thing to watch out for is continuously copying a small area across the audio event can create drumming if the small copied section copied has a throb or thud in it, even if subtle.

If the wind noise is low (i.e. not intruding on audio you want to keep) but constant with no quiet area, there are 2 easy options: 1/ highlight the wind noise using the 'frequency selection' tool and reduce the volume of the selected area; or 2/ delete the selected area and replace the deleted area with the 'Noise Spray' tool (strength completely adjustable) to maintain body in the audio event.

I find option 1 very useful for reducing the volume of the lower end of GoPro audio which can be quite 'bassy'. Though EQ can do that of course, there's usually something else to clean up in the audio so might as well get both done at the one time.

 

 

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andyrpsmith wrote on 8/11/2020, 4:53 AM

Is the bundled SLPver7 a cut down version in any way? I bought V18 upgrade now due to SLP which to me seemed much preferable to all the Boris stuff.

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Dexcon wrote on 8/11/2020, 4:58 AM

A similar question was asked recently on SpectraLayers 7 forum, and the answer from SLP7's developer was:

I don't know about the license itself, but technically speaking there's only one version of SL Pro and SL Elements, regardless of the kind of license used to activate it.

https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=305&t=195425

The last comment asked for clarification about that from Steinberg's marketing team.

 

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andyrpsmith wrote on 8/11/2020, 5:04 AM

Many thanks, I had a look at the forum post. It looks like it's a full version.

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xberk wrote on 8/11/2020, 10:55 AM

Bought VP18 .. SpectraLayers offer did it. Thanks guys.

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