@Howard-Vigorita Thanks 😒 Did you create that in 22 or 23?

On File - Properties, make sure "Resample" is set to "None" unless you REALLY need the resampling.

I started it a year ago in vp21, re-saved and worked on it some more with vp22, then re-saved in vp23 to compare the renders. I'm going to keep the separate audio mixdown project in vp22 and continue the video grading project in vp23.

On File - Properties, make sure "Resample" is set to "None" unless you REALLY need the resampling.

I edit with project properties set to 8bit-full, good, resampling=none and rendered hd that way above. But changed to 32bit-full, best, Optical Flow for the 4k hevc render.

On File - Properties, make sure "Resample" is set to "None" unless you REALLY need the resampling.

@jetdv Both are on 'Disable resample'. Am I misunderstanding?

No. I had some extremely slow renderings that changing that setting (mine was on Optical Flow) resulted in a substantial increase in render speed. I do see crossfades to seem to be slower.

@Gid I see a potential issue... if that vp23 project properties screen is from vp23, the temp folder is pointing to the one belonging to vp22. If that happened by importing settings into vp23 saved by vp22, any window layouts are probably like that too. You can fix that by editing the settings export with notepad and changing any 22's you see in path statements to 23. If you have vp22 layouts you want to carry into vp23, you can copy and paste them into the vp23 folder.

if that vp23 settings screen is from vp23, the temp folder is pointing to the one belonging to vp22

@Howard-Vigorita Do you mean this one ? I noticed that but as it's a temp folder I didn't think it mattered reg rendering..

In the earlier pics & test I didn't manually import anything from 22 apart from the project... The window layout in 23 was still at it's default & I went through the Preferences options but they were also at the default as are my 22 options, I don't change anything really in VP, I find the defaults work best for me. ,

You can fix that by editing the settings export with notepad and changing any 22's you see in path statements to 23

🤷‍♂️ I wouldn't know where to start with that 🤷‍♂️😂👍

& I only have 4 window layouts that are quite simple to recreate. I'm on the Trial at the moment as I can't afford to upgrade right now but over the next few wks I've videos to make, so hopefully I'll set up 23 how I like it, do some editing & see how it goes.. & hopefully I can render these out using VP22... haven't tested that yet.

Thanks.

I had previously test rendered using Nvenc (VP22) a users uploaded near 12 minute FHD 59.94 file that previously took 5 minutes and 20s to render out.

It takes 3 minutes and 20s. using VP23 b278, happy days, no more stop start.

@Gid That's the one. You can also navigate to the analogous vp23 default with the Browse button next to it. Here's the other one in View/Window Layouts that also has a Browse button...

Btw, I think the idea of recreating window layouts from scratch, or at least re-saving them, is a good one. I suspect there's new data fields in the new files. I was seeing stars (*) next to my layouts immediately after loading the ones I copied from vp22. Re-saving them made the stars go away. I recall that happening in the past from 1 build to the next.

@Howard-Vigorita Thanks. I think it was 20 to 21 or 21 to 22 where I imported layouts but they crashed VP, so I recreated them instead, those problems went away.

I wonder if the render issue is because I'm still on Windows 10, my PC says it needs a TPM device fitting to get Windows 11, I've just been looking into it again & it seems possible so we'll see, I'll find the cash to upgrade VP & I'll bring my PC up to date 👍

I wonder what Windows version @edoardo-l is on as he posted a similar render problem.

@Gid

Just looked at your motherboard manual bios, as I have the "baby brother" to yours (MSI TRX40 Pro WiFi w/3960x), and you have a TPM device onboard, like mine. Actually, all my Threadripper boards have had it since the X399 days (still have one running with a 2920x, on windows 11)

In BIOS/UEFI, go to "Advanced\AMD fTPM configuration" an ensure "Firmware TPM" is enabled. Like my MSI board, it was not enabled by default, though my newer Gigabyte TRX50 AERO D board was. After saving the change, and the board re-initializes, and you get back to your logon screen, do that, then re-start your computer again to ensure it has taken. Give this a couple of days for the computer to "phone home to Microsoft", which it should then come back in your "Update Windows" section that you can now "Upgrade" to Windows 11. Hope this helps.

@Howard-Vigorita I haven't done anything & now it says 23 🤷‍♂️😂

@Chief24

Thanks, I have looked into it, watched a few vids but I don't think it is installed. These pics are from my motherboard site where it states 'Internal I/O Connectors - 1 x SPI TPM header (14-1pin)'. I can see this when I look in the PC, it's tiny but looks like these pics with nothing plugged into the 14-1 pins ..

When I restart the PC I'll have a look in BIOS.... 👍

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PS.

Google -

The ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI motherboard does not have a TPM chip directly on the board, but it supports a TPM module via the TPM header located on the motherboard. This allows you to add a separate TPM module to the board if required for security features like Windows 11. You can check the motherboard manual for the specific TPM header location and type of module supported. 

....... ..... so hopefully I'll set up 23 how I like it, do some editing & see how it goes.. & hopefully I can render these out using VP22... haven't tested that yet.

A quick test with a simple project, it seems VP23 projects can't be opened in VP22 😒

Windows 11

A quick test with a simple project, it seems VP23 projects can't be opened in VP22

Typically, a .veg project is not able to be opened in an earlier VP version. An exception was possibly VP13 back to VP12 and there may have been one other instance around VP15 or thereabouts. Alternatives are to copy (Ctrl-A / Ctrl-C) the timeline from the newer VP version and paste it (Ctrl-V) into the older VP version - but FX unique to the new version won't copy/paste as well as any project/track level FX or the project properties; or export an EDL Text File (File/Export) and import that EDL into the older version. The downside of the EDL process is that only the media will copy/paste with no FX at all.

@Dexcon Thanks, that's what I suspected after reading other posts about backward compatibility in previous versions.

This Trial isn't working out well for me at the moment, I've cancelled test renders that look like they're going slow & VP23 has closed without warning, I clicked Cancel, the render box goes away, VP pauses/hangs & then just shuts down 😒

Ok final tests..

I opened a new project & recreated this project in VP23 in a simplified way, no fxs, no audio muted, no texts, just the orig footage trimmed with a 15fr crossfade between each.

(This pic is after I converted the files & replaced them but the recreated timeline was the same just with the orig media)

Same poor rendering. 8min UHD Magix HEVC took 15.04mins to render.

I converted all the files to MP4 (H265) 30GOP using Shutter Encoder. Put those files in a separate folder & replaced the orig files on the timeline wit those converted file & saved that as a new project in the new folder. Closed/reopened VP23 & opened that project.

Almost the same piss poor rendering speed. 8min UHD Magix HEVC took 14.45mins to render.

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Just as a simple test I rendered one of the unedited converted files, dragged onto the timeline & rendered.

UHD, MP4 HEVC 30GOP Constant. 3.51mins long took 7.10mins to render 😒

Back in VP22 that same unedited 3.51min file took 2.29mins to render.

@Gid

Gid, I'd say that your CPU/GPU combo is the bottleneck.

@Adis-a Thanks, don't think that helps tho as I can't change my PC..?

@edoardo-l posted a similar problem with a similar CPU but he has - Ryzen 5950X - Asrock X470 Taichi - 64 Gb ram DDR4 3200 C16 - Sapphire RX 7800 XT

His post

​@​​​​​​Gid On my pc (see signature) I got an almost 100% increase of renderspeed during betatesting of VP23 compared to VP22. The annoying stop and go rendering, which all previous Vegasversions suffered from, is finally gone. My PC renders now at an average of 70fps with 2160p50 media on the timeline. At the moment I can't do further testing since I'm on vacation.

@Adis-a Thanks, don't think that helps tho as I can't change my PC..?

@edoardo-l posted a similar problem with a similar CPU but he has - Ryzen 5950X - Asrock X470 Taichi - 64 Gb ram DDR4 3200 C16 - Sapphire RX 7800 XT

His post

@Gid

I know, I'm no better either, my CPU doesn't have an integrated iGPU and I don't have the latest generation 50** from nVidia, like a 5080 or 5090 that decodes HEVC 10 bit 422 footage or similar...