Weird black screen glitches when I'm using picture-in-picture FX

Gintorias wrote on 10/6/2022, 3:21 PM

Product: Vegas Pro 18

Graphics
Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics

CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU 
@ 2.70GHz 4 Cores

VRAM
8192 MB
GDDR5 2000 MHz

RAM
8 GB

Operating System
Windows 10 Home

I'm experiencing weird black screen glitches whenever I'm displaying multiple videos in one screen (picture-in-picture FX).

Picture-in-picture was working fine in the past, this problem just showed up recently.. I tried a lot of things to fix this problem, watched a few YouTube guides, etc.. Nothing seemed to work. Any idea's how to fix this?

Here's a link to visualize it:

Thanks.

Comments

john_dennis wrote on 10/7/2022, 12:01 AM

@Gintorias

I'm not having these problems with a similar video card (see my signature) and the following settings:

Why do you feel the need to use the Picture in Picture fX for a three pane crop that can easily be done in Pan/Crop and Track Motion?

Gintorias wrote on 10/7/2022, 12:30 AM

Why do you feel the need to use the Picture in Picture fX for a three pane crop that can easily be done in Pan/Crop and Track Motion?

In all honesty, I never knew about the Track Motion. I'm still new to this. But wow that will save me a lot of time for my future edits, so thank you for that. I hope it'll stop the flickering too.

I'll let you know. 👍
 

Gintorias wrote on 10/7/2022, 7:44 AM

@Gintorias

I'm not having these problems with a similar video card (see my signature) and the following settings:

Why do you feel the need to use the Picture in Picture fX for a three pane crop that can easily be done in Pan/Crop and Track Motion?

Unfortunately the settings and track motion didn't help.

Anything else?

jetdv wrote on 10/7/2022, 9:07 AM

What format are the video files?

Gintorias wrote on 10/7/2022, 10:30 AM

What format are the video files?


I render at:
Formats: MAGIX AVC/AAC MP4
Templates: Internet HD 1080p 59.94 fps

RogerS wrote on 10/7/2022, 10:54 AM

Not the render, the source files. Use MediaInfo to answer: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

What amount is dynamic ram preview set to?

Gintorias wrote on 10/7/2022, 6:34 PM

Not the render, the source files. Use MediaInfo to answer: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

What amount is dynamic ram preview set to?

 

Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 72.5 MiB
Duration                                 : 30 s 59 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 20.2 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-06 20:04:03
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-06 20:04:03

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 30 s 47 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 20.0 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 40.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.161
Stream size                              : 71.8 MiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-06 20:04:42
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-06 20:04:42
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 30 s 59 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode          d               : Lossy
Stream size                              : 694 KiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-06 20:04:04
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-06 20:04:04


General
  Name: SMITE_replay_2022.09.23-02.34.mp4
  Folder: C:\Users\volka\OneDrive\Bureaublad\test
  Type: AVC
  Size: 111,02 MB (113.681.517 bytes)
  Created: donderdag 6 oktober 2022, 22:00:44
  Modified: vrijdag 23 september 2022, 02:34:30
  Accessed: zaterdag 8 oktober 2022, 01:22:42
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:00:30,033, 59,966 (VFR) fps progressive, 1920x1080x32, AVC
  Audio: 00:00:29,951, 48.000 Hz; Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 6

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

I used to use 3500 MB out of max available 7128 MB

But it started flickering few weeks ago, now it's set to 200MB out of 7128 MB and it's basically the same story.

Former user wrote on 10/7/2022, 7:00 PM

It mainly looked like the dynamic ram black frame problem, but a few times I thought I saw glitches too, but you could try setting dynamic ram to zero if you haven't tried that yet. Also your video quality is really terrible, does it look good when it comes out of Vegas?

You could do the trick of encoding at 1440P to get a 1080P VP9 encode, it should look much better. I am seeing a h.264 video from YT, and it's lower quality than VP9

Gintorias wrote on 10/7/2022, 8:02 PM

It mainly looked like the dynamic ram black frame problem, but a few times I thought I saw glitches too, but you could try setting dynamic ram to zero if you haven't tried that yet. Also your video quality is really terrible, does it look good when it comes out of Vegas?

Usually the quality is decent. I'll try it with zero.

You could do the trick of encoding at 1440P to get a 1080P VP9 encode, it should look much better. I am seeing a h.264 video from YT, and it's lower quality than VP9

How do I do this?

Former user wrote on 10/7/2022, 8:11 PM

Encode at 1440P, even if your project is 1080P. Initially YT will only show the AVC(h.264) version, but after it encodes 1440P encode, and possibly a little extra delay YT will serve a VP9 version at 1080P, replacing the AVC version. Some say this doesn't work anymore, but I tried it on a zero subscriber YT channel just last week. It still works, and the quality difference is obvious

Gintorias wrote on 10/7/2022, 8:55 PM

Encode at 1440P, even if your project is 1080P. Initially YT will only show the AVC(h.264) version, but after it encodes 1440P encode, and possibly a little extra delay YT will serve a VP9 version at 1080P, replacing the AVC version. Some say this doesn't work anymore, but I tried it on a zero subscriber YT channel just last week. It still works, and the quality difference is obvious

I see, thanks.
Dynamic ram to zero didn't solve it by the way.

Gintorias wrote on 10/10/2022, 7:07 AM

Any solutions? Or a service I can contact?

Former user wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:22 AM

@Gintorias Hi, have you checked your driver is up to date, In Vegas top of the screen Help - Check for Driver Updates,

Gintorias wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:54 PM

@Gintorias Hi, have you checked your driver is up to date, In Vegas top of the screen Help - Check for Driver Updates,

Hello, yes it is.

walter-i. wrote on 10/11/2022, 2:46 AM

@Gintorias Hi, have you checked your driver is up to date, In Vegas top of the screen Help - Check for Driver Updates,

Hello, yes it is.

@Gintorias
Does this mean that this has solved your problem?
Then feel free to mark Gid's post as a solution.

Gintorias wrote on 10/11/2022, 5:48 PM

@Gintorias Hi, have you checked your driver is up to date, In Vegas top of the screen Help - Check for Driver Updates,

Hello, yes it is.

@Gintorias
Does this mean that this has solved your problem?
Then feel free to mark Gid's post as a solution.

It did not solve it.

Edit: I tried it one more time and the flickering is gone, I think it did solve it. For this project at least. I will mark it for now.

Thanks to all of you.