Everything will be included in version 8, no need for a version 9.

Version 8 edits 3D holographic material? Cool!

Except DVDA5!

Well, seeing as you asked:

1) BWF export.
2) OMF support.
3) Rewire slave.
4) Fix all the audio things that got broken several releases ago.
5) 10bit over SDI support, I suspect that V8 still doesn't do this. 32bit float, yes BUT that seems to be internal processing only.
5) Some form of anti-aliasing, only yesterday one client was asking what the heck went wrong with his video, not good.

Bob.

"Thought I'd get an early start; avoid the rush."

The sooner they start the better.
If it keeps on raining here Sony will soon be under water, the lakes are up by about two feet in the last week!

Terry

5) Some form of anti-aliasing, only yesterday one client was asking what the heck went wrong with his video, not good.
Bob, if it's a still image you're panning and scanning, try:
A- Render quality = best. This uses bicubic resampling, which has less aliasing.
Video preview resampling method is determined by the video preview quality.
B- Apply blur *before* pan/crop. Apply a FX like convolution kernel, quick blur, whatever.
Click the little triangle in the bottom lefthand corner of the eventFX window.

Well played Jay...well played...............

FLV export for web delivery

Cliff Etzel
bluprojekt

To join this hallucinatory party, here is one other improvement (actually a bring-back from several versions past) that would be nice:

-- Johnmeyer or someone else mentioned that at one point, Vegas included a "path" in either or both Pan/Crop, TrackMotion. Probably some Bezier type thing.

T'was useful for one could see the entire path of one's keyframes for the event. Good for us visually oriented dudes and dudettes.

That said, I"m going on hearsay since I hadn't gotten Vegas back in those old days, but others may remember this..
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Being doing this stuff for years, certainly know about the Best thing and the Blur thingy.

I *think* I know where part of the problem is coming from. Some of the footage was shot on film and then supers added as 50i and the damn things fly around very quickly, trying to get that back to 25p without high end processing is a bit of a dogs breakfast.

The other problem of using Vegas's 2D planar rotation got improved a lot when I compared apples to apples, I was comparing 50i output to 25p output, not fair. The 25p output from a real 3D application still looks a wee bit better but the render times while it does multiple AA passes is huge. All this is from rastered source, clearly if it was vector based the 3D app would kill Vegas but that'd be a very unfair comparison.

Now if I could only get the DVDA menus to look better, think its time to start doing them in PS, DVDA's text rendering is just horrid.

Bob.

>>>>FLV export for web delivery<<<

Only if it's a good one. Even if you have flash ( not sure about current version of premiere ), exports are inferior to what you get with Sorenson or Flix, so what's the point unless it can match the best possible results.

A little premature there Jay wouldnt you think?

Gotta be better than On2 or Squeeze

I *think* I know where part of the problem is coming from. Some of the footage was shot on film and then supers added as 50i and the damn things fly around very quickly, trying to get that back to 25p without high end processing is a bit of a dogs breakfast.
So you're talking about poor de-interlacing quality??

In that clip yes. But heck not in a million years would I expect Vegas to compete with the high end hardware that excels at this. Would be nice though if some of the good de-interlacer plugs would plugin to Vegas.

There was one other bit of ugliness in this project that the client mentioned, when I get the time I'll go back and see if I can nut out what caused it. The source looked fine but the rendered output shows some bad jaggies on the edge of a laptop lid as it's closed.

A pain of a job overall, the sources were, DB, SP and then some stuff I had to rip off DVD and mixed aspect ratios as well. Spent a lot of time masking wandering edges on some of the old SP material.

Ah, and the final straw. The client wants me to change the color of some text so while I'm at it I fix a minor navigation issue in the DVD. Well the client cannot get the DVD to play, period, on two DVD players! After much running around we determine that one DVD players has a dead remote and the other one is on its last legs.

Bob.

exports are inferior to what you get with Sorenson or Flix, so what's the point unless it can match the best possible results

Never thought of it that way - the Adobe Fan boys pontificate about the tight integration of PPro CS3 with Flash when all I want is to export out the file to FLV format - I already use squeeze and the Brightcove publishpod so I guess it isn't a real issue after all.

Cliff Etzel
bluprojekt

flash export, and preferably import too, please.

Import of swf files exists but you need to export from flash as a version 4 file to ensure there's no actionscript in it.

What you're talking about is FLV import/export, though. Importation is not so important since that's a delivery format and if you are generating the video you should have the original media, but exportation would be very desireable. I'd be quite happy if a purchasable codec would just work in vegas. I understand and accept that On2 charges for the codec.

Rob Mack

- Accurate scene-splitting and clean audio in HDV capture

- Flexible file-naming in capture, including date and time (like HDV Split)

- Ability to browse files in a "filmstrip" style file list that we can scrub through (like Sclive), for quick browsing and selection of clips

- flv export (2-pass, On2 VP6 quality or better)

- Divx export

- Xvid export

- Rewire support (to use Vegas with Reason)

- improved intelligence for locating offline media

- variable auto-save increment

- ability to save shortcuts to favourite folders in "open", "save-as", "render-as" etc. windows (like Reason has)

- capture of exposure etc. metadata from the camera (if the camera can output it?)

- tooltips of the media filename when hovering over an event in the timeline (like Premiere)

- improved slo-mo audio scrubbing (Premiere is better for picking out dialogue etc.)

- my number one request (again)... live display of the event length on the event itself during ripple editing, like this:
[IMG=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/bubblevision/would-like.jpg]

I have a request that I would like to see in V8. 3D. By that, I mean being able to give a plane z-width, so when you rotate around in 3d motion the video plane has some (adjustable) thickness to it. Would be even cooler if it could have variety such as "extrusion" effects, but just plain simple thickness would be great.

Also, smart-rendering that accounts for plugins that are not multithreaded, and can create "network" rendering on the same host to allow different instances to render different segments and stitch them back together automatically, with some sort of guestimate on whether or not it would be quicker to do this, or simply let one instance deal with it.

The option to automatically (if wanted) update rendering destination based on where I saved the project. It's annoying when I have to keep altering my save destination AND render destination when skipping back and forth between lots of projects.

Ken

edit - oh, and 64bit everything :).

simple batch hdv batch capture. ie. just like dv - yes, i know it's a pipe dream, but when you're working from paper cut edl's, it's either a joy simply typing in the numbers al la dv, or a nightmare capturing a whole tape and then having to use the trimmer for 6 or so shots scattered through the tape....

leslie

- HDV capture not flaking out my audio preview which scares the crap outta me and sounds like a dropout..
The capture is fine, the preview jsut flakes out

- In NLE preview screen with overlay "tweaking" and colour gamut ranges (ie, allow us to use the preview window to ACCURATELY reproduce colour. As in a miniature in NLE external monitor... only this time, its internal.
I dont see why this would be a problem considering
1) its already avalable for secondary moitor tweaks (as a preview monitor)
2) the preview window is software driven, so all we'll be doing is tweaking the global output of IT to give us an accurate colour and brighness rendition in the preview panel.
Reason i mention his is that not all of us NEED to see everything BIG.

- Proper AC3 config in AVCHD export for BD.. not this consumer garbage which doesnt even let u mess with line mode profile and DR compression ratios. Hell it doesnt even let u mess with EX metadata or mixdown metadata..
Not impressed considering those who are going to watch this stuff in HD wil more than likely have a sound system worthy of DD 5.1..

- AVCHD authoring in DVDA. If we can create a basic ISO in Vegas, i dont see why we cant implement that into DVDA.. OK, if they dont want us to use BluePrint in DVDA, thats fine.. but at least give SOMETHING to create a menu driven disc
The lack of HD disc AUTHORING is appalling IMO

- AVCHD "marker to chapter" option
Set markers into your project and during render selection, have a checkbox which allows us to set these markers as chapter points. If we cant have authoring, at least let us skip through...

- 32bit smartrender.. in DV or HDV
how would this work? well, capture using a 32bit float algorythm.. fekk knows how that would be done though.. lol actually considering 32bit float is internal i dont think this is ever gonna happen.. unless of course we capture as 32bit.. yeah right..

- internal XDcam EX MP4 unwrapping
I would have thought V8a would have had this..

- Auto Project correction
Heres a clever tidbit.. 1440x1080 using anamorphic PAR equates to the same frame size as 1920x1080 in square pixel..
Now, how cool would it be to create a 1920x1080 project, import your HDV footage and have vegas shift the PAR to square for you? But even better.. at the time of capturing, to create the M2ts as square aspected files, so rerendering or scaling wouldnt be needed.
I know theres script which changes PAR anyway, but yeah.. just a thought..

- Filtering
1) Auto WB wheel in Primary CC using a culmination or cooperative behaviour with the existing 3 wheel tool. IE, select auto WB, and the 3 wheels automatically shift so we can see WHAT is being corrected. THis way we retain our control over the WB correction, but still tweak as needed as we might want a warmer tone or what have you

2) Filter KF automation. Select a look region, hit play and tweak to your hearts content. KF's are then drawn in as you manipulate the filter. tis ouwl dcomin in handy for shifts in exposure, colour and anythgin else which can be KF'd Lens flares can be drawn in as the clip plays back (as opposed to being set to a path)
they doi it Surround sound mixing, i dont see why they cant do it with Video

Theres afew others but im tired and have alot of work to do..