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WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE SITE?
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Jonathan Neal
wrote on 4/25/2008, 12:50 AM
I appreciate the work you've been putting into this site! I get the usefulness of returning to a similarly dated set of message when clicking "Back to Vegas - Video". Would it be easier just to send them back to the current page they were on? If they haven't come from a page on Vegas, then it could take them to page 1. Now, if the pages have changed so much that the original post has been moved to the next page, then I don't see how this would severely impact the overall experience of using the sight.
ForumAdmin
wrote on 4/25/2008, 9:55 AM
Thanks for the feedback! I went with Bjorn and John Cline's suggestion. So now if your most recent message listing page was deeper than page one, and you were there in the last half hour, the "Back to Vegas - Video" link will take you to where you were.
If you were on page one of the messages, or it's been longer than a half an hour, you'll get linked back to the top - starting at message #1.
Instead of using the querystring to determine the start date on the "Back to Vegas - Video" link, I'm using a cookie that expires after 30 minutes. So the problem Tor and Peter were seeing should go away now.
Hope that helps. I'll watch this thread for the rest of the day, so if anything weird comes up, let me know. Have a great weekend.
If you were on page one of the messages, or it's been longer than a half an hour, you'll get linked back to the top - starting at message #1.
Instead of using the querystring to determine the start date on the "Back to Vegas - Video" link, I'm using a cookie that expires after 30 minutes. So the problem Tor and Peter were seeing should go away now.
Hope that helps. I'll watch this thread for the rest of the day, so if anything weird comes up, let me know. Have a great weekend.
baysidebas
wrote on 4/25/2008, 11:31 AM
Goodbye ForumAdmin, it's been nice knowing you.
You do realize that such commitment to the job, and high level of responsiveness to the forum users' suggestions, plus the technical wherewithal to implement the requested changes, make you totally unqualified for the job of forum administrator? As soon as the higherups get wind of your helpfulness you'll be history.
Ah, well, nothing good lasts forever....
You do realize that such commitment to the job, and high level of responsiveness to the forum users' suggestions, plus the technical wherewithal to implement the requested changes, make you totally unqualified for the job of forum administrator? As soon as the higherups get wind of your helpfulness you'll be history.
Ah, well, nothing good lasts forever....
NickHope
wrote on 4/25/2008, 11:45 AM
ForumAdmin, while we have your attention, would it be possible to allow bigger pictures? This is important for posting screen dumps. A good case in point is Peter's post above where the text is compressed and not legible. A limit of say 750px wide by 900px high would be much better. Thanks!
Jay Gladwell
wrote on 4/25/2008, 1:20 PM
Nick, the text is very clear on my screen.
Tim L
wrote on 4/25/2008, 1:38 PM
Okay, here's my little request: How about removing the "Post New Topic" link from the "viewing a thread" page.
I think anyone really wanting to start a new topic would reasonably go to the main page to do it, but every so often we see a new thread on the main page that was clearly intended to be a continuation of an existing thread. People who are reading the last post in a thread -- especially if they don't post here a lot -- sometimes accidentally click on the "Post New Topic" link (rather than "Reply"), and end up creating a new thread by accident.
Anybody see any problems with getting rid of "Post New Topic" on the "view thread" pages?
Tim L
I think anyone really wanting to start a new topic would reasonably go to the main page to do it, but every so often we see a new thread on the main page that was clearly intended to be a continuation of an existing thread. People who are reading the last post in a thread -- especially if they don't post here a lot -- sometimes accidentally click on the "Post New Topic" link (rather than "Reply"), and end up creating a new thread by accident.
Anybody see any problems with getting rid of "Post New Topic" on the "view thread" pages?
Tim L
ForumAdmin
wrote on 4/25/2008, 2:21 PM
750x900 it is. I also tweaked it a bit so that when we resize, it should now do so proportionally.
The image you were referring to was already sized down. The source image is 636x927, so don't be suprized if it's still not clear.
(Jay, I think it's the one further up the page that Nick was talking about.)
A tip - if you ever have an image you think it being resized by a webpage, you can click and drag it to your address bar (old browsers) or a new tab (modern browsers), and it'll open the image in it's own window. Then depending on your browser setting it'll fit to window, or display at 100%. It's a nice option when you want to see the full version of an image on any site. Doesn't work so great if the image it linked to something though.
The image you were referring to was already sized down. The source image is 636x927, so don't be suprized if it's still not clear.
(Jay, I think it's the one further up the page that Nick was talking about.)
A tip - if you ever have an image you think it being resized by a webpage, you can click and drag it to your address bar (old browsers) or a new tab (modern browsers), and it'll open the image in it's own window. Then depending on your browser setting it'll fit to window, or display at 100%. It's a nice option when you want to see the full version of an image on any site. Doesn't work so great if the image it linked to something though.
ForumAdmin
wrote on 4/25/2008, 2:23 PM
Tim, I think that's a good idea, but will wait a bit to see if others agree. Very easy change if there's consensus that this link is more confusing that convenient.
PeterWright
wrote on 4/25/2008, 7:29 PM
Saturday morning:
In case the URL is not legible, it's
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowTopics.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=575545&sdint=293986241
Previous action - I opened my Opera browser after booting up, and it started as I left it last night, which was Inside a thread [entitled "start authoring Blu-Ray for $1100 (?). At that time this thread was sitting somewhere in the first 5 Threads - No.3 possibly.]
I then clicked "Back to Vegas Video" at the bottom, and the above screen appeared.
Ctrl/Refresh changed nothing, nor did Refresh, but "More Recent Topics" restored the list to the usual, starting with Post No.1.
I should stress that although this behaviour is "unusual", it is not a problem, as clicking More Recent Topics gets things back on the rails.
In case the URL is not legible, it's
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowTopics.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=575545&sdint=293986241
Previous action - I opened my Opera browser after booting up, and it started as I left it last night, which was Inside a thread [entitled "start authoring Blu-Ray for $1100 (?). At that time this thread was sitting somewhere in the first 5 Threads - No.3 possibly.]
I then clicked "Back to Vegas Video" at the bottom, and the above screen appeared.
Ctrl/Refresh changed nothing, nor did Refresh, but "More Recent Topics" restored the list to the usual, starting with Post No.1.
I should stress that although this behaviour is "unusual", it is not a problem, as clicking More Recent Topics gets things back on the rails.
NickHope
wrote on 4/25/2008, 9:43 PM
NickHope
wrote on 4/25/2008, 9:44 PM
NickHope
wrote on 4/25/2008, 9:46 PM
NickHope
wrote on 4/25/2008, 9:54 PM
Thanks ForumAdmin! Looks like you're allowing a maximum of 750 wide x 800 high. That's good. Whatever you finalise on it would be a good idea to put it in the sticky post about forum markup.
Now then... any chance of supporting the standard image embedding tags given by sites like Photobucket and Imageshack and used by most forum software? By which I mean this:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/bubblevision/750x750.gif[/IMG]
And finally there was a problem that tags were still getting read inside code tags. We were debugging a script and it turned out there was no problem with the script, it was that the [ i ] was getting read as an italic tag, despite being inside a code block. Inside a code black those tags should be disable completely even though it's occasionally nice to embolden or italicize something.
Now then... any chance of supporting the standard image embedding tags given by sites like Photobucket and Imageshack and used by most forum software? By which I mean this:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/bubblevision/750x750.gif[/IMG]
And finally there was a problem that tags were still getting read inside code tags. We were debugging a script and it turned out there was no problem with the script, it was that the [ i ] was getting read as an italic tag, despite being inside a code block. Inside a code black those tags should be disable completely even though it's occasionally nice to embolden or italicize something.
Jonathan Neal
wrote on 4/26/2008, 10:55 AM
Nick Hope, I was about to say that the "New Markup for Forum Posts" needs a whole revamping, but when I looked at it again, it almost looked like a few inconsistencies were fixed. I'm glad that someone is finally coding for the forum again.
I hope it won't be too long until we get preview, or a live preview. I would demo what this would like look for you all, but as maybe two of you might remember, all my forum work was basically lost. I know it's possible though!
Also, an RSS feed wouldn't be an awful or awfully difficult idea.
And since I'm channeling that tiny thing called hope in my heart, a "General" section wouldn't be the worst idea, unless ForumAdmin is the one and only, in which case it may be too many sections to monitor. I suggest that last one because if anyone wants an answer to a general question, they don't go to the "Vista" zone.
I hope it won't be too long until we get preview, or a live preview. I would demo what this would like look for you all, but as maybe two of you might remember, all my forum work was basically lost. I know it's possible though!
Also, an RSS feed wouldn't be an awful or awfully difficult idea.
And since I'm channeling that tiny thing called hope in my heart, a "General" section wouldn't be the worst idea, unless ForumAdmin is the one and only, in which case it may be too many sections to monitor. I suggest that last one because if anyone wants an answer to a general question, they don't go to the "Vista" zone.