Comments

alifftudm95 wrote on 3/12/2020, 11:27 PM

I think this is a new update on VP17 for user to manually adjust the WB input. But I will never use VP17 WB. It creates nasty Red/Purpleish tint on the video instead of really correcting the WB.

Editor and Colorist (Kinda) from Malaysia

MYPOST Member

Laptop

MacBook Pro M4 Max

16 Core CPU and 40 Core GPU

64GB Memory

2TB Internal SSD Storage

Anti-Glare 4K HDR Screen

 

PC DEKSTOP

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900x

GPU: RTX3090 24GB

RAM: 64GB 3200MHZ

MOBO: X570-E

Storage:

C DRIVE NVME M.2 1TB SSD GEN 4

D DRIVE NVME M.2 2TB SSD GEN 4

E DRIVE SATA SSD 2TB

F DRIVE SATA SSD 2TB

G DRIVE HDD 1TB

Monitor: Asus ProArt PA279CV 4K HDR (Bought on 30 August 2023)

Monitor: BenQ PD2700U 4K HDR (RIP on 30 August 2023)

 

 

 

Former user wrote on 3/13/2020, 12:52 AM

THAT'S CRAZY!, What do you use instead @alifftudm95

alifftudm95 wrote on 3/13/2020, 12:56 AM

THAT'S CRAZY!, What do you use instead @alifftudm95

I always get my WB correct on camera in the first place. But let just say if the WB isn't accurate, then I fix it using the color correction tools. Much more realistic and accurate

Editor and Colorist (Kinda) from Malaysia

MYPOST Member

Laptop

MacBook Pro M4 Max

16 Core CPU and 40 Core GPU

64GB Memory

2TB Internal SSD Storage

Anti-Glare 4K HDR Screen

 

PC DEKSTOP

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900x

GPU: RTX3090 24GB

RAM: 64GB 3200MHZ

MOBO: X570-E

Storage:

C DRIVE NVME M.2 1TB SSD GEN 4

D DRIVE NVME M.2 2TB SSD GEN 4

E DRIVE SATA SSD 2TB

F DRIVE SATA SSD 2TB

G DRIVE HDD 1TB

Monitor: Asus ProArt PA279CV 4K HDR (Bought on 30 August 2023)

Monitor: BenQ PD2700U 4K HDR (RIP on 30 August 2023)

 

 

 

karma17 wrote on 3/13/2020, 3:48 AM

I don't really get what you're doing. I think you are supposed to click on a white color, and you'd need to have a white card in the shot for that; otherwise, it is going to get wonky. I agree you should try to get a white balance in the field, especially in mixed light situations, and I'd never auto white balance anything. If anything, I'd use the color corrector and RGB parade to try and level things out. In other words, I don't think you should use auto white balance for anything professional.

Grazie wrote on 3/13/2020, 4:26 AM

Why VP17 White Balance not Auto ?

@lee-g - Why? Because the answer is hinted at within the product name: Vegas PROFESSIONAL

I’ve always WB-ed on site. If I then find I’ve got a problem I come to my Professional package - VP - and use any one of an arsenal of Colour Correcting Tools whilst checking my Scopes. Having said that, in the Primary, now ancient, Colour Corrector, I point my colour picker at either Grey or White or Black, and that’s as far as I would want an AUTO suggestion to be.

I blame Smart Phones and Auto Correct Photo packages to convince you that that should be the same for a professional NLE. But I’ve been wrong before, and maybe I should accept the Way of the World 😉!

 

 

pierre-k wrote on 3/13/2020, 5:45 AM

nobody uses the white balance plugin because it has poor results. Better is automatic balancing in color curves plugin with one mouse click. but only up to version 353. newer versions have a high contrast error.

 

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/v17-color-balance-v353-vs-v387-bug--118648/

Grazie wrote on 3/13/2020, 5:52 AM

nobody uses the white balance plugin because it has poor results.

@pierre-k - Ah, yes, I read that. To be honest I’ve now got other CCs that I run towards. And thanks for the nudge PK. 😉

Dexcon wrote on 3/13/2020, 5:56 AM

Any thoughts on using R, G or B selections in VEGAS Levels to balance color/white? I've found Levels very useful for regaining real world colors where the original footage is compromised when shooting through tinted windows in trains/buses/hotel rooms etc.

BTW, Levels of course has a global effect for the shot, its not targeted to selected areas of the shot which can be accomplished by using some other plugins.

Last changed by Dexcon on 3/13/2020, 6:04 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 3/13/2020, 7:10 AM

@pierre-k

nobody uses the white balance plugin because it has poor results. Better is automatic balancing in color curves plugin with one mouse click. but only up to version 353. newer versions have a high contrast error.

I find in v17 that I have to apply a lift of between 0.10 an 0.15 in the color grading color wheels to offset the contrast increase in auto balancing. And maybe set the gain to around .90. I only use the white balance plugin to double check white balance if I forget to bring my white card and have to use something else like a table cloth in which case I shoot a clip of it so I can futz with it some more later.

RogerS wrote on 3/13/2020, 9:48 PM

I used the white balance Fx but currently the amount slider is broken (bug) so the eyedropper part of it isn't useful. I think Colorfast has a white balance dropper that works.

For major WB issues, adjusting RGB curves manually works. It's helpful to have a reference for white, gray and black like a colorchecker.

Robert Johnston wrote on 3/14/2020, 9:13 PM

Auto correction did work up until this last version. It was probably broken in an attempt to fix a bug where some of the numbers weren't the same when the project is reloaded. There really needs to be color samplers (like eyedropper samplers in Photoshop) so you can see the RGB or whatever numbers as you make changes with color tools. That would really be professional. What's not professional is trying to eyeball it without the use of actual numbers.

Intel Core i7 10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz (to 4.65GHz), NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GBytes. Memory 32 GBytes DDR4. Also Intel UHD Graphics 630. Mainboard: Dell Inc. PCI-Express 3.0 (8.0 GT/s) Comet Lake. Bench CPU Multi Thread: 5500.5 per CPU-Z.

Vegas Pro 21.0 (Build 108) with Mocha Vegas

Windows 11 not pro

Sr_Garcia wrote on 3/15/2020, 4:08 AM

A FREE and EXCELLENT plugin for color correction and White Balance.
You can download it from: __HERE__

Simple and effective !!

michael-harrison wrote on 3/15/2020, 11:35 AM

@Sr_Garcia and it still works? hasn't been updated in more than 10 years

System 1:

Windows 10
i9-10850K 10 Core
128.0G RAM
Nvidia RTX 3060 Studio driver [most likely latest]
Resolution        3840 x 2160 x 60 hertz
Video Memory 12G GDDR5

 

System 2:

Lenovo Yoga 720
Core i7-7700 2.8Ghz quad core, 8 logical
16G ram
Intel HD 630 gpu 1G vram
Nvidia GTX 1050 gpu 2G vram

 

Former user wrote on 3/15/2020, 12:57 PM

wow, amazing to think that came out 10 years ago.

Sr_Garcia wrote on 3/15/2020, 3:03 PM

@Sr_Garcia and it still works? hasn't been updated in more than 10 years

@michael-harrison Works perfectly and reliably 😉

Free and easy to install