XAVC-L loading problem - v14

redpaw wrote on 9/21/2016, 7:05 AM

So, the problem when I'm trying to put over 300 clips (over 4hr of footage)  from fs5 onto the timeline and the system runs out of memory is unfortunately still there in v14 

While still using v13 expanding from 16 to 32GB RAM helped a lot (pretty much doubled the amount of clips i could put there on timeline)  but it still freezes at some stage. and it's the only codec that you can see vegas memory use skyrocketing while the clips being imported. 

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Quitter wrote on 9/21/2016, 9:44 AM

It seems no matter how much memory you have, vegas 14 allways uns out of memory at larger projects.
i m getting the same message with 30 mts files, at 8 GB memory

Ticket#2016092117003023

Camcorder: Sony CX 520 VE
Hardware:   Acer NG-A717-72G-71YD, Win 10 Home 1903, i7-8750 H, 16GB, GTX 1060 6GB, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD
NLE:  Sony Vegas Pro 13.0 Build 453
           Vegas Pro 14.0 Build 270

redpaw wrote on 9/21/2016, 9:49 AM

i never had any problems with the footage from sony ex1 / ex3... but it was as bad (if not worse - couldnt even load 100 HD / 30 4K files into a project) with prores from BM4K, but just checked and it's fixed in v14 (not that i really care that much anymore after selling blackmagic). 

Quitter wrote on 9/21/2016, 9:56 AM

they fixed one problem and get some new

you should open a support ticket https://support2.magix.com/customer/en/vegas/form

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Camcorder: Sony CX 520 VE
Hardware:   Acer NG-A717-72G-71YD, Win 10 Home 1903, i7-8750 H, 16GB, GTX 1060 6GB, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD
NLE:  Sony Vegas Pro 13.0 Build 453
           Vegas Pro 14.0 Build 270

redpaw wrote on 9/21/2016, 10:31 AM

i sent the report with details, but you're right, no harm in opening the ticket too. 
I'm more optimistic, looks like they're going in right direction, and probably next build will fix all the newly introduced issues. to be fair there's loads fixed and the new problems seems to be quite small and (i'm guessing) easily fixable.  

Quitter wrote on 9/21/2016, 10:40 AM

I also believe that they are very hard to fix errors

set wrote on 9/21/2016, 10:03 PM

Not just XAVC-L footages, but also when opening VP13 project contains AVCHD Media & DJI Osmo media.

Listed 447 items in my Project Media.

Not just that, large long record HDV or Atomos ProRes record suffer similar issue, as posted here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vp14-bug-hdv-files-and-projects-hanging-or-crashing--103590/#ca638645

mateuszszar wrote on 2/22/2017, 10:19 AM

If you disable Thubnails (Vegas Pro 14 > Preferences > Video), problem doesn't exist.

But if you change Thubnails to show in video events to Head or All, RAM memory is fully used.

 

I have the same problem with XAVC-L... and 16GB RAM. 😕

NickHope wrote on 2/25/2017, 1:00 AM

If you disable Thubnails (Vegas Pro 14 > Preferences > Video), problem doesn't exist.

But if you change Thubnails to show in video events to Head or All, RAM memory is fully used.

 

I have the same problem with XAVC-L... and 16GB RAM. 😕

@redpaw or anyone else with this issue, could you please test mateuszszar's suggestion to disable thumbnails?

astar wrote on 2/25/2017, 1:16 AM

"I'm trying to put over 300 clips"

I believe Groucho would say stop doing that if it hurts.

 

Maybe do less in one step and try another timeline that uses nested files?

Maybe concatenate the file series with FFMPEG?

redpaw wrote on 2/25/2017, 11:45 AM

I tried it... in short - yes, it works... buuuuuuut... every time you scroll over the clips the RAM usage goes up anyways... and up... and up and up... and the worst thing is it stays there even if you delete the clips from the timeline... the memory is freed only when you close the vegas altogether.

video might make more sense then my description ;)

 

OldSmoke wrote on 2/25/2017, 12:32 PM

I would transcode it to XAVC-I, Vegas will handle it much better, 4:2:2 is preserved and it smart renders too.

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NickHope wrote on 2/25/2017, 8:54 PM

This issue seems intrinsically related to the playback problems with XAVC-L/S reported in this thread.

I tried rewrapping an XAVC-L file to mov with ffmpeg as that shouldn't recompress but unfortunately Vegas won't open the output file. VLC will. (I chose mov because the pcm audio isn't supported in an mp4 wrapper, and this type of mov will decode with compoundplug.dll, not Quicktime)