Make proxy files in VEGAS?

ProRes does playback very well in VEGAS unlike DNxHR.

That's interesting. I have never tried to edit DNxHR footage on VEGAS, I've just assumed it would run smoothier than Prores since it's more Windows-compatible.

But yeah I do have experiences in editing Prores on VEGAS and it did playback very well indeed

You are correct, ProRes 422 is a very good intermediate format.

I'd personally just right click on the file, "create video proxy" (in the media pool), then set preview quality to draft or preview, which enables the proxy. Do your cutting, and then when you need to color it, set it back to best (full), get your color where you want it, and then render it. This gets around any performance limitations with any format. ProRes or other intermediate formats, while higher quality, are also much larger.

even though I do have a pretty good GPU and general computer specs

Please tell us your computer specs.

I edit BRAW 6K 50p with my laptop, and it works great.

All the sample files of BRAW that I have tried all play back at full frame rate. Even with adding color grading.

But as posted above, you've failed to include your computer specs. Why not enter them into your User Profile>Signature like mine below?

even though I do have a pretty good GPU and general computer specs

Please tell us your computer specs.

I edit BRAW 6K 50p with my laptop, and it works great.

All the sample files of BRAW that I have tried all play back at full frame rate. Even with adding color grading.

But as posted above, you've failed to include your computer specs. Why not enter them into your User Profile>Signature like mine below?

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor 3.50 GHz

64 GB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

Have preview on BEST/QUARTER for 6K braw when using CGP with Vegas 32bit projects. Vegas has a problem with BRAW where it's processing the tracks underneath when it shouldn't be processing them, the top track is at 100% video level. This is playback at BEST/HALF, even when tracks underneath are muted Vegas can't quite play at 24fps, and lip sync is poor. The other problem is Vegas should be able to play the blended tracks without dropping all those frames.

If you were to transcode to prores should be able to use BEST/HALF with CGP 32bit with reasonable playback results for 6K footage(but most likely dropped frames). In my experience CGP will do 1080P 32bit without dropping frames so for 4K footage BEST/HALF can work well at 24fps, the higher you go above 1080P preview the more frame drops.

I would recommend NOT to use the CGP, if one can avoid it. At least not at the moment. I agree with you that it takes away a lot of performance, unfortunately.

Especially for BRAW (and I test that here with 6K 25p footage from my Pocket 6K Pro). I would either apply a LUT for the transformation to rec709. A nice LUT can be found here for free. This approach has the advantage, that the project settings can be either 8bit full, or 32bit floating point video levels (for editing 8bit, for final rendering maybe the 32bit settings).

Or you apply an ACES transformation to rec709. In event properties I set the color space to "ARRI - V3 LogC (EI 400) - Wide Gamut". For the ACES transformation, the Blackmagic Raw Decode Properties are a nice tool, what allows us to get a nice picture even without the CGP (access in the project media with right mouse click, and File Format Properties).

With that approach, I see an appropriate playback performance on my desktop (specs see below my signiture). What performs better with the older RTX 2080 Ti of the TO, well please test that.

I'd personally just right click on the file, "create video proxy" (in the media pool), then set preview quality to draft or preview, which enables the proxy. Do your cutting, and then when you need to color it, set it back to best (full), get your color where you want it, and then render it. This gets around any performance limitations with any format. ProRes or other intermediate formats, while higher quality, are also much larger.

@PazGreem I also agree that is the best solution for your heavyweight video source. @fr0sty

I would recommend NOT to use the CGP, if one can avoid it. At least not at the moment. I agree with you that it takes away a lot of performance, unfortunately.

In my multicam-projects, I generally apply cgp at the track level to each camera track. Then, in sections where I panned & zoomed, I fine-tune with additional cgp at the event level. So that recommendation wouldn't work at all for me.

My work-around is to NOT use 32-bit mode in projects with versions of Vegas later than vp21 build 208. With later versions, my large projects, normally rendered 32bit/best for upload to YouTube, take a massive performance hit. But I found the hit much lower rendering 8bit/best. And when I ran analysis to quantify the quality drop going from from 32bit to 8bit, I found that I could make up for it by raising the output bitrate a small amount. The upload size also increases a small amount but I think that's more tolerable than being stuck in the middle of last year's Vegas. Multicam edit mode is noticeably smoother in vp22. So for me it's an overall win.

I avoid the cgp at the moment - even for 12 bit BRAW footage. The reasons for that is, that you can adjust the footage in a gread way in the BRAW decoding settings too, and have then an even better performance then with the CGP. And if the target is rec709 anyway, one can use the LUT mentioned above. All together a good workflow.

I avoid the cgp at the moment - even for 12 bit BRAW footage. The reasons for that is, that you can adjust the footage in a gread way in the BRAW decoding settings too, and have then an even better performance then with the CGP.

@Wolfgang S. Are you referring to a tab like this?

ChatGpt said it's in video clip properties but I don't see any special raw decoding settings.