For Vegas see this benchmark (and you can compare your system as well): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Exbi4K3hbxw6snJuisR1ble-0tCPVNcIcNnx0BAtSIM/

There are a few TechGage articles comparing different CPU and GPU combos in Vegas. https://techgage.com/article/magix-vegas-pro-18-processor-graphics-card-performance/

For GPUs more broadly PugetSystems has some benchmarks with other NLEs.

Most on the forum have experience with AMD or NVIDIA GPUs and Vegas.

@RogerS | Just wondering, as I can’t seem to see it, how long is the test for in those VEGAS Pro benchmarks (this one)? Also, is the test rendering a particular video file (like one for HD and one for UHD)?

Also, just going off topic a bit, how’re you liking the Intel i5 13600K?

The first link connects you to my Dropbox where you can download the project. It's only several minutes long so renders are between 30s and 5 min. All the instructions are on the form itself.

I am very happy with the i5 13600K. I think I chose well as paired with a good air cooler (Fuma Scythe 2) and a case with good airflow I am unable to get close to thermal throttling with it, it normally peaks at <170W, and usually it's very quiet. The iGPU works well in Vegas for decoding. You can see it holds its own on the benchmarks and for price/power/heat I think it's the way to go for 13th generation Intel.

The first link connects you to my Dropbox where you can download the project. It's only several minutes long so renders are between 30s and 5 min. All the instructions are on the form itself.

Ah okay. I did have a look the link and the test results. It will help with any future upgrades.

I am very happy with the i5 13600K. I think I chose well as paired with a good air cooler (Fuma Scythe 2) and a case with good airflow I am unable to get close to thermal throttling with it, it normally peaks at <170W, and usually it's very quiet.

Well, that’s good to know. I’m glad you’re happy with it.

The iGPU works well in Vegas for decoding.You can see it holds its own on the benchmarks and for price/power/heat I think it's the way to go for 13th generation Intel.

I did have a look at your results and it seems to get close to @Reyfox’s average FPS. How’s it handle timeline playback? The highest resolution I work with with my R7 1700 and RX 580 is 4K25 from my Sony FDR-AX700 which uses Sony’s XAVC S (H.264/MP4 4K @ 100Mbps) CoDec for 4K25 recording. My system manages it alright under VEGAS Pro 18. And when I tested it under VEGAS Pro 20 trial, it seemed alright also.

However, when I used one of the new customisable OpenGL transitions in the VP 20 trial, VEGAS Pro 20 trial froze and went to ‘Not responding’ and I had to open Task Manager and force it to close. I don’t know why because my RX 580 should easily be able to handle it. I have thought about upgrading but I’m just not sure that I can justify the cost. Besides, I only film family videos anyway. It’s more of a hobby and I do no professional work at all whatsoever.

Crazy to see a RTX3090 with a i9 12900K getting beat by a 6900XT with a generation older intel CPU by 10 seconds...

@RogerS | Do you know if it’s at all possible to sort those benchmarks by highest to lowest FPS? It’d just be interesting to see what system config is getting the highest average FPS.

The top 13 slots are all AMD GPU's and lots of AMD CPU's. I squeaked in to #13 with my not so high end all AMD computer.

With the release of the new Nvidia and AMD graphics cards, along with CPU's from AMD and Intel, I'm sure it will be interesting to see how this list goes.

The top 13 slots are all AMD GPU's and lots of AMD CPU's.

That they are. By that, it looks like AMD hardware does quite well with VEGAS Pro, just going by that observation alone.

I squeaked in to #13 with my not so high end all AMD computer.

Well, to be precise, #79 with your RX 480 and #13 with your newest RX 6700 XT. Your average FPS almost tripled — 7+ FPS to 18FPS. That’s quite a nice boost in performance for you.

Yes, you can sort however you like. Highlight a cell in a column you want and go to data/sort sheet:

There are also a few view presets so you can only look at what's relevant to you. Only UHD renders; only AMD GPUs, etc. Click data then filter views.

I did have a look at your results and it seems to get close to @Reyfox’s average FPS. How’s it handle timeline playback? The highest resolution I work with with my R7 1700 and RX 580 is 4K25 from my Sony FDR-AX700 which uses Sony’s XAVC S (H.264/MP4 4K @ 100Mbps) CoDec for 4K25 recording. My system manages it alright under VEGAS Pro 18. And when I tested it under VEGAS Pro 20 trial, it seemed alright also.

Keep in mind that this project is very heavy on moving graphics, etc. so that is entirely GPU dependent. I have a RTX 2080 which is far from the best out there but I chose it as a reasonable compromise of price/power/performance. The reality is I am not editing projects that look anything like this one and think I am about as fluid for editing as Vegas will allow (it has its own bottlenecks).

For decoding of media this system is strong, which reflects the superiority of the Intel iGPU in Vegas. I only shoot Sony XAVC S 4K AVC in 24p @ 100Mbps from a few different Sony cameras and that is trivial for the CPU/iGPU to decode. That said my 5 year old laptop also handles 8-bit 4K XAVCs fine; it's just if you start to add other Fx on top of it that it starts to lag and you need to resort to lower quality preview or proxies. It's of course much slower to render, as the results show.

The GL Transition may have been coded improperly- some have formatting errors that break Vegas. I also use a few on my 5 year old laptop without issue. I wouldn't buy a new computer for that.

TechGage should also have some VP 20 benchmarks in the not too distant future according to a post from a few weeks back. I don't see big performance differences in Vegas over the past few versions so it will be more interesting just to see how new hardware compares.

Yes, you can sort however you like. Highlight a cell in a column you want and go to data/sort sheet:

There are also a few view presets so you can only look at what's relevant to you. Only UHD renders; only AMD GPUs, etc. Click data then filter views.

Thanks mate! That is nice to know. I followed your instructions and noticed that #18 is beating everyone else @ 4,378 (4378) average FPS in UHD, WOW!. I think we all now know the system config we all need (JK 😜). I’m guessing it’s meant to read 4.378?

Yeah, Mr. last place beats us all. The render time is also unlikely so I just made a note in the notes column hoping the user would come back and submit a valid result.

@MH7 My signature contains charts I've run on cpus and gpus over the years for both performance and quality. I've never owned a high-end Nvidia gpu so you won't find that comparison there but I've had a couple Nvidia 1660s in dual gpu systems. But mostly Amd + Intel. For performance, I chart both the original Sony Red Car benchmark as well as the same Sample Project in @RogerS charts. I also benchmark the original Red Car with performance variations substituting in 4k avc, hevc, and prores media. I find the Red Car benches more relevant to me because they employ a wider variety of the effects that I use.

Sample Project, btw, is top-heavy with a particular gpu-intensive media generator that I have never found occasion to use in a real-world video project... which newer Amd Navi gpus happen to execute spectacularly well. I remember when I first got the Amd 5700xt (little navi) and it did significantly better than the Radeon7 in Sample Project but did not perform as well in Red Car or my video projects. Might be the same deal comparing a 6900xt to a 4090.

Hi Howard, thanks for sharing the Redcar benchmark and your results.

To replicate the results in Roundup 21, are you using the default values here and good/auto for render quality?

If you have 16 around is it possible to save the 4K AVC project with the right reference to media so it doesn't have to be found each time? I think that would make it easier to use. If I save over it it can't be used in older versions of Vegas.

You also mentioned a script- I didn't see that for download though.

With VP 20 I got 3:24 with my XPS 9560 laptop in HD with Mainconcept and the above settings. NVENC in HD was 1:34.

Not sure why sometimes the drive path gets locked in, other times not. Try this one... shuffled it around to different locations and it's working most of the time for me:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R9Y2UOiLcAbEv4DwDv61ZtA4Xpqq5j1K/view?usp=sharing

My RedCar numbers all use the default templates marked with "=" signs in the stock distribution Magix presets like the one you showed.

The script I use needs to be compiled to DLL with Visual Studio. I developed it with the free community edition of vs19 but had no problem loading the project as-is into vs22. Project is here and the compiled DLL is in "Installation Folders" along with render preset files specially named for the script. My inspiration for the script came from @jetdv tutorials which also covers loading optional VS modules which was a sticking point for me having never used Visual Studio before. Highly recommended tutorials... I started with Part #1 and worked my way forward.

Thanks Howard, I'll test this out shortly.

Interested to hear your thoughts but maybe I should consider making a second benchmark project to crowdsource results. To keep the results useful and distinct from sample project I wonder if the 4K AVC or HEVC sources would be the most interesting.