Blue tint after updating AMD drivers

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 8/22/2022, 11:12 PM

Just a quick FYI -- this evening while working on 3 different videos I noticed skin tones looked very blue.

I inspected the source files playing in VLC and Media Player and the skin tones were, in fact, perfectly fine in other apps. But they were blue in Vegas 20's preview, as well as a video I rendered (using a Magix AVC/AMD codec).

Noting I had updated my AMD video card driver about 30 minutes earlier, I rolled back the driver version and the problem resolved.

Just wanted to post this experience here in case anyone else updates their AMD driver and suddenly has a similar problem...

Vegas 20.214

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

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Yelandkeil wrote on 8/23/2022, 12:37 AM

There's no reason to risk any optional as long as the current driver shows 22.5.1 as up-to-date. For some people e.g. me, the 22.5.1 could be the last version for a proper 10-bit environment, if this Note won't go away:

OpenGL applications that are 10-bit aware are no longer supported with HDR display capabilities. Enabling 10-Bit Pixel Format in advanced graphics settings is only recommended for use of 10-bit aware OpenGL applications and not required for enabling 10-Bit Color Display Capabilities.

 

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Gid wrote on 8/23/2022, 12:45 AM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns Hi, on this post i shared links to a couple of other posts with the same issue 😉

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-19-preview-screen-and-rendering-in-inverted-colors--136668/#ca854047

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Former user wrote on 8/23/2022, 12:52 AM

There's no reason to risk any optional as long as the current driver shows 22.5.1 as up-to-date. For some people e.g. me, the 22.5.1 could be the last version for a proper 10-bit environment, if this Note won't go away:

For Nvidia, we're taught to use studio versions, but why do AMD people seemingly not use the Pro version, it looks to be released a month after 22.5.1 . Is it limited for other uses such as gaming? @Yelandkeil

  • AMD Software: PRO Edition
  • Revision Number
  • 22.Q2
  • Release Date
  • 6/14/2022
  • Adrenalin 22.5.1 Recommended (WHQL)
  • Release Date
  • 5/10/2022
Yelandkeil wrote on 8/23/2022, 1:05 AM

Already tried that "PRO Edition", no good. It's like a Lite-version just for stability, and released very few versions. I guess, it's for industrial software such as CAD etc.

The WHQL is for all purpose, not just gaming. Even Windows' recommendation/default installation is one of the WHQL-version.

AMD never says you should use this one or that one.

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Yelandkeil wrote on 8/23/2022, 1:13 AM

The main reason that 22.7.1-8.1 have been released is they are trying to rage the so called "background noise cancellation", which really only for gaming.

Bad is, they sacrificed important functions such as 10bit HDR display support.
Maybe, the future AMD will release gaming/studio versions like Nvidia. Maybe.

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RogerS wrote on 8/23/2022, 1:37 AM

It's on the known issues list for 22.8.2 though one report says it's actually fixed. 22.5.1 is a known good driver.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/24/2022, 3:42 PM

... why do AMD people seemingly not use the Pro version, it looks to be released a month after 22.5.1 . Is it limited for other uses such as gaming? @Yelandkeil

  • AMD Software: PRO Edition
  • Revision Number
  • 22.Q2
  • Release Date
  • 6/14/2022

Because it's not current for the more recent series-6000 gpus... the amd pro release date does not reflect the much earlier Adrenalin driver they made it from. 22q3 will likely be built from 22.5.1 and will probably be fine.

I could use a different version for every different machine. Like I have to do with Intel graphics drivers. But I don't like that. Neither apparently does Vegas.

Former user wrote on 8/24/2022, 5:58 PM

@Howard-Vigorita It's always the drivers with AMD, when they've had that reputation for so long you'd think they'd try to change that perception. I guess Intel is pretty similar. I was reading about a bad Nvidia studio driver, but it's really uncommon

Reyfox wrote on 8/26/2022, 9:26 AM

The 22.5.1 driver works. I've usually updated my drivers up to this point in the last 4 years of using Vegas (VP14-19) with RX480 and never had a problem. None, until lately after upgrading my card to RX6700XT. I read about all the AMD driver issues, but have not experienced them until the "optional" 22.7.1 and now the "optional" of 22.8.2. But if you read the release notes, it clearly mentions issues with the 6000 series cards and Vegas. So it's a known issue to AMD. I would bet if I put in my older RX480, I might not have an issue. Never did in the past.

But I am not giving up the card I have now, which works fine so far with 22.5.1 drivers. This driver is WHQL (Windows Hardware Quality Labs), and is the only RECOMMENDED, tested, and signed drive. Again, the others are "optional".

It would be interesting to hear AMD card users and if they've experienced driver issues.

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Chief24 wrote on 8/26/2022, 10:54 AM

I also use the 22.5.1 (WHQL) drivers. As mentioned by @Howard-Vigorita , I tried the newer "Pro" 22.Q2 using my Reference XFX RX 6900XT on computer in signature using VEGAS Pro 20 (Bld. 139), and also had issues with VEGAS Pro 19 (Bld. 643) and VEGAS Pro 18 (Bld. 527) - all three pretty much told me to "Go Take a Hike, FatBoy!". So, reverted back to the WHQL 22.5.1 drivers, all is well in VEGAS Pro land!

After experiencing that, decided to just stay with the WHQL driver for my other computer, also using a RX 6900XT and VEGAS Pro 18 (Bld. 527). That particular computer is also all AMD, with a 2950X coupled to an Asus ROG Strix X399-E Gaming, with 64 GB of RAM, and using all PCI-e drives for editing/gaming.

Previously, on older computers, tried the older HD 7950/7970 cards, but thought it was the card, not the drivers. How wrong I think I am looking back at things. Also used to have issues with an MSI RX480, and now feel it may have been drivers as well. At least, when it comes to content creation or productivity apps - gaming it kicked butt!

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RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 8/26/2022, 1:25 PM

 

It would be interesting to hear AMD card users and if they've experienced driver issues.

What would you like to hear? I'm the OP and definitely had issues with my RX470 and the newer driver, which rolling back fixed.

Funny -- I rolled back my driver using Windows "rollback driver" (fixed problem) but now the newer Adrenaline won't launch due to version differences. Windows reports my driver version as 30.0.15021.1001, dated 3/2022

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Vegas 20.214

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

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Reyfox wrote on 8/26/2022, 3:29 PM

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns reading the release notes on the "new" drivers, it said there were issues with Vegas. And again, they are not WHQL drivers but were "optional", not Recommended, and have not passed the WHQL testing.

Before the 6700xt, I had a RX480 and nary an issue with recommended drivers. It was running fine on 22.5.1 until I replaced it.

As for rolling back, I used AMD's driver uninstall to remove the "optional" driver. It is easy and will automatically boot in safe mode to do this. Then download and install (I always keep the previous good working drivers just in case) and install.

GaryX wrote on 8/27/2022, 5:34 AM

 

It would be interesting to hear AMD card users and if they've experienced driver issues.

What would you like to hear? I'm the OP and definitely had issues with my RX470 and the newer driver, which rolling back fixed.

Funny -- I rolled back my driver using Windows "rollback driver" (fixed problem) but now the newer Adrenaline won't launch due to version differences. Windows reports my driver version as 30.0.15021.1001, dated 3/2022

I experienced the same with v22.8.1 so i was happy to read in the 22.8.2 release notes that it was fixed.

And it was very disappointed to see that it is NOT fixed. I also cannot playback fullscreen in vegas with this driver. Blackscreen flickering.

When i have no effect added to the track it looks normal, as soon i add an effect it looks like the colors invert, look negativ... however. Turning on/off 10bit in the driver ->Graphics/advanced makes no difference. I hope they fix this soon, very annoying not being able to use vegas.

Reyfox wrote on 8/27/2022, 6:10 AM

@GaryX why can't you use Vegas? I am using it just fine. If you read my message above yours, it explains that 22.8.2 is an "optional" not fully tested driver like 22.5.1, which is recommended. And no where does it say that the color issue with 22.8.1 was fixed in the Release Notes. It does report this: VCE presets may be mssing in VEGAS Pro.

No comment on the color issue.

And why can't you use 22.5.1? Is there a particular reason? To me, the "optional" drivers are just that, optional, and more like a beta version of what will be coming next. Have you used the Recommended drivers? If so, was there a particular issue with them?

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/27/2022, 7:03 AM

Funny -- I rolled back my driver using Windows "rollback driver" (fixed problem) but now the newer Adrenaline won't launch due to version differences. Windows reports my driver version as 30.0.15021.1001, dated 3/2022

@RedRob-CandlelightProdctns Windows driver rollback should only be used if you get a driver via WindowsUpdate and want to reverse it and prevent the same update from being acquired that way a 2nd time. Applying the update package from amd applies their full driver support software package which may or may not work if you switch only part of the package. Your best bet is to turn off getting any drivers though WindowsUpdate... DDU has a handy checkbox preference setting or you can do it manually by navigating the gpedit.msc group policy editor.

GaryX wrote on 8/27/2022, 7:28 AM

@GaryX why can't you use Vegas? I am using it just fine. If you read my message above yours, it explains that 22.8.2 is an "optional" not fully tested driver like 22.5.1, which is recommended. And no where does it say that the color issue with 22.8.1 was fixed in the Release Notes. It does report this: VCE presets may be mssing in VEGAS Pro.

No comment on the color issue.

And why can't you use 22.5.1? Is there a particular reason? To me, the "optional" drivers are just that, optional, and more like a beta version of what will be coming next. Have you used the Recommended drivers? If so, was there a particular issue with them?

You are right, it was not said that this particular problem was fixed, i was blinded by the message that there was a problem with vegas and it was in the fixed problems section.

I used 22.5.1 for a very long time and very successfully, but i do more then vegas on my computer, it is not just for doing some video editing, i also play some games like MSFS 2020 in VR and other new games and for these you need actual drivers.

Maybe for the next windows installation i will prepare for 2 accounts, 1 for rendering and 1 for the other stuff.

Its just that i was used to do all in one. 🙂

Reyfox wrote on 8/27/2022, 7:43 AM

@GaryX I fully understand using other software, and if an update fixes that issue, and breaks something else the you use, yeah... I understand.

I do light gaming and was having issues with 22.5.1. I tried 22.8.2 and the problem disappeared, but I spend way more time with Vegas than any other program (outside of Brave) that I use. So, I did the uninstall with AMD's uninstaller that will boot your computer into safe mode to do the uninstall. Then reinstalled 22.5.1 and all was good.

I was trying RX6600 drivers, RX480 drivers and finally RX6700xt drivers and never did the complete removal, just ran the drivers and let that do it's thing. I guess it sort of did...

BruceUSA wrote on 8/27/2022, 9:31 PM

I just built a new system i7 12700K running @ 5.2, turbo boost @5.4ghz, DDR5 6200Mhz and Asrock 6900XT. I am running a render test and my video has a purple tint. I am running up to date driver version 22.8.2 Any one having the same issue?

The weird thing is video render in Davinci resolve is fine.

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BruceUSA wrote on 8/27/2022, 9:44 PM

I am running 3 monitors running off the 6900XT. I am thinking adding a HDMI connection to one of the monitor HDMI port to the motherboard HDMI. That way I can use IGPU for render in Vegas. I can use the GPU to render in Davinci Resolve as because I am using this 2 software depends on what project I am working on. Hopefully a new driver will fix this issue.

Ps. That is 22.5.1 fix this purple tint.

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Reyfox wrote on 6/13/2023, 5:18 PM

I am still using 22.5.1 AMD driver because at the moment, Boris Title Studio, NBFX Titler Pro 7 and Ignite Pro 5 (thanks Arlist for killing it along with Hitfilm Pro) will only work with that driver.

I've tried the Pro driver, and every driver up to the current one (23.5.2), the above plugins just don't work.

But then, if they bring any "improvements", the mostly it's to gaming.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/16/2023, 7:38 AM

I am running 3 monitors running off the 6900XT. I am thinking adding a HDMI connection to one of the monitor HDMI port to the motherboard HDMI. That way I can use IGPU for render in Vegas. I can use the GPU to render in Davinci Resolve as because I am using this 2 software depends on what project I am working on. Hopefully a new driver will fix this issue.

Ps. That is 22.5.1 fix this purple tint.

Latest amd drivers solved the tint issue.

Although it helps forcing recognition when something is amiss, you shouldn't need to plug a monitor into motherboard hdmi to render Qsv with Vegas. Some plugins like Voukoder 10 had an issue with Windows config but they fixed it in later versions. Intel graphics drivers can also be an issue. 11th gen and later cpus should use the latest Iris/Arc unified drivers. Systems with uhd630 need older drivers... I've had good success with 2115 and 2111 on some of mine (see my signature). I've found that doing a cleanout with ddu is needed to fix or revert to older Intel drivers. Plugging into motherboard hdmi is technically only required for screen capture and display optimization using Intel software. If using multiple monitors, also make sure to select Alternate HighDpi instead of HighDpi.