> So if you have advice of NSIS Install issues then please give it -- it can be nightmare debug that tool.

David,

The new command that was added to NSIS for Vista 64 is:

RequestExecutionLevel none|user|highest|admin

You probably want to use "admin". Place this near the top. I have it before I define any menus, right after I specify my OutFile.

Anther good thing to include somewhere at the top of your NSIS file is this:

!include x64.nsh

This gives you access to macros that test if you are running on a Vista64 box like:

${If} ${RunningX64}

    MessageBox MB_OK "running on x64"

${EndIf}

I think the RequestExecutionLevel admin parameter might solve a bunch of problems for you.

~jr

> P.S. 4:50pm PST -- Bumped yersion to 117i -- including licensing to match that of Neo HD/4K which always seemed to work. Just in case.

OK, I just tried the 117i build on my vmware Vista64 and at first it failed to install. Then I right-clicked on the installer and selected "Run as administrator" and it successfully installed. I think adding the "RequestExecutionLevel admin" to the NSIS code from my previous post is going to clear this up for you.

I can now render with 117i on the fresh Vista64 install which is in trial mode.

So I went on to do the same on my editing workstation but it did not work. I can't even render in 32-bit mode now! Could it be that the trial license is more lenient than the "real" license that I have for Neo Scene? Does you statement above mean that the trial is using the Neo HD/4K trail license? That doesn't help those of us with Neo Scene licenses.

I also noticed that 32-bit mode shows the CineForm HD Codec v5.1.1 whereas before it was the 5.0. Also there are two entries in my uninstall programs for CineForm HD Codec whereas before there as only one.

So with 117i I cannot render at all. Not in 32-bit nor 64-bit mode. Both give me license errors. :(

The strange thing is that I can render from HDLink with 117i. It's just Vegas that gives the license error even for 32-bit. Does HDLink use the same license checks?

~jr

I can confirm JR's experience. I can't render Cineform from either 64bit or 32bit Vegas anymore.

Thanks JR, added the admin bump.

To All:

NeoSceneV132b117j-090629.zip

The above version has been testing to work, in Admin or User modes, with UAC on or off, XP 32/64 and Vista 32/64 (no Windows 7 support yet.) Please confirm on your system.

Encoding licensing has been testing for trial and activated system. If you are now only having encoder license issue, when you request to CineForm codec control panel for the first time (in Vegas or VirtualDub) how many seconds does it take to open?

David

Still no go for me on the laptop install.

"Error: cfVideoChange.CoCreateInstance(CLSID_CFVideoChange) (0x80040154 - Class Not Registered) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 3744)"

VP9 64 bit doesn't even see the the install. I created a trouble ticket on the CIneform Tech support page - haven't heard anything back as of yet.

Cliff Etzel
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Cliff,

That is something quite different to what is being tested here. Try this
Go to Start->Programs->CineForm->tools->Register Components.

117j worked perfectly for me - no crashing either during installation.

Xander,

That is more like the reports I was hoping for. You have encoding now also?

David

Others,
Please, I need more feedback.

_dan_ said:

That is something quite different to what is being tested here. Try this Go to Start->Programs->CineForm->tools->Register Components.

Tried that several times - to no avail. Nothing happens when I run the register components utility other than a CMD window pops up.

I have a trouble ticket pending for CF Tech Support.

Cliff Etzel
Videographer : Producer : Web Designer
bluprojekt

5.1.1 codec in 32x and 64x

Encode and decode in 32 x and 64x.

One wrinkle. The first time I tried the 64x encode the purchase license. dialog was posted. When I opened VP9 again and tried 64x encode no license message. Everything seems fine.

Ed

Ed,

Sounds like we are very close on your PC. That first time it didn't get license, it take a while (about 5 secs.) before the licensing error, or did that post immediately.

David

On my system, I used to get the error immediately on a render, but now it takes five seconds or so. I can read Cineform clips in both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Vegas but can't render to Cineform in any version.

David,

I opened the render, selected custom and the cineform codec, closed the dialog, and launched the render then the The license message was posted. It occurs on reboot.

Ed

David,

Side effect

VP9 will not allow me to drop an mts file on the timeline if the cineform 64x codec has not sucessfully licensed.

I uninstalled/reinstalled 117j and most all the problems disappeared except the initial license delay. On reboot or reload there is no license delay. No explanation.

Ed

PS Make sure you uninstall both codecs before you uninstall CIneform or you will end up with a couple of zombies.

We can't directly interfer with M2T files, I couldn't do that even if I wanted to. It might be a Vegas failure when handling the error messages for VFW encoding, but that is not us.

There simply not enough consistant feedback between users, with many not having issues. Plus it is working on every PC it try here.

I wonder if Vegas just doesn't like us licensing testing, and it is timing out. All my PC are Core-2 quad cores or i7s, i.e. very fast. None have any issues.

Do you have the same problem in VirtualDub for CineForm encoding? Really need more feedback before I have to shelve this for a while.

Question to answered:
1) Is the installer working for everyone now? Mostly seems so.
2) Is the 32/64-bit VfW decoder working for everyone?
3) Is the 32/64-bit VFW encoder working in VirtualDub?
4) Is the encoder working in Vegas 9?

David

David - What's the typical response time from submitting a tech support ticket???

Submitted it early this morning and haven't' heard anything yet.

Cliff Etzel
Videographer : Producer : Web Designer
bluprojekt

I am running a Core 2 quad 2.66 GHz 8GB RAM and I have issues.

Ed

> Please, I need more feedback.

NeoSceneV132b117j-090629.zip has fixed everything for me. I can playback and encode in both Vegas Pro 9.0 32-bit and 64-bit. All of the render options are now available in the 64-bit version. Great work!

~jr

Thank you JR,

Although your post put us at about 50%, unless there are many that succeeded and have not come back to report. You pointed out some real useful install hints, and I was able to fix a couple more installer issues not even mentioned with your leads. I now think the installer is pretty solid. So any remaining issues have me baffled.

David

David - currently, I'm doing a restore from a previous Acronis backup image to see what, if anything, can be done to resolve the install issues of Neo Scene on my laptop - I'll report back with more after all updates from Microsoft are installed.

Cliff Etzel
Videographer : Producer : Web Designer
bluprojekt

> You pointed out some real useful install hints, and I was able to fix a couple more installer issues not even mentioned with your leads.

David, I'm glad I could help. Any time you need something tested just let me know. I try and think of what information I would want to debug the problem if it were me. Adding Vista64 support to the VASST software products took a few years off my life so i know what you're going through. ;-)

~jr

Update on laptop reinstall after restore of Acronis Image: The Error message no longer appears, but Neo Scene is not an option for render in VP9 64 bit. I installed the latest "j" version.

I copied the libmmd.dll file to the system32 folder but that didn't make any difference.

Any other ideas?

Once I get this working, I want to create anew Acronis image so I dont' have to go thru this again.

Cliff Etzel
Videographer : Producer : Web Designer
bluprojekt